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Drugs n Stuff 84: Steroid QA. Dave Crosland and Scott McNally.Presented by https://truenutrition.com/ Code: ADVICES for savingsCheck out great products like Karboload, a good tasting, cost effective complex carb, great for packing on muscle. Coupled with their EAA, it makes for an economic intra workouthttps://truenutrition.com/p-7450-karboload-30-servings.aspxSwitching esters during a cycle – Does it even matter?13:30 ULG for TRT?Low Estrogen on T400 and DecaFirst cycle cutting from 300 lbsNolvadex – Will clotting issues happen long term or just during use?Supplements for Crohn’sPutting on sizeReach out to Dave: Croslands.org.ukReach out to Scott: [email protected] MP3
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Drugs n Stuff 84: Steroid QA.Presented by https://www.truenutrition.com/ Code: ADVICESWith Dave Crosland and Scott McNally.7:20 Clomid vs Nolvadex for PCT16:20 What basic equipment is needed for a home gym – In what order would you buy each piece25:25 Supplements for visceral fat28:54 Would a week on cycle be long enough to change your lab work?31:03 Would you train a female differently than a male?37:53 Finding a way to do therapeutic phlebotomy47:20 The differences between injectable, oral and sublingual winstrol52:40 Improving sleep on cycle59:30 When to add calories on a bulk1:03:05 Cycling for strongmanReach out to Dave: Croslands.org.ukReach out to Scott: [email protected] MP3
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Drugs n Stuff, 86: anavar
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Drugs n Stuff 86: ANAVARPresented by https://www.truenutrition.com/ Code: ADVICESSupport our Patreon here:https://www.patreon.com/thinkbigbodybuildingDave Crosland n Scott McNally4:40 Steroids in the News : Police Report on a Bad Batch9:55 Anavar : Steroid Profile of the week30:00 Kidney Damage Causes39:00 Dosing Orals all at once or spread over the day43:45 PGF2A – Topical for fat loss?48:00 Triptorelin for regaining natural test production52:00 Grapefruit juice raising blood levels of gear55:00 When to add Caber with Deca62:00 High Dose Injectable L Carnitine1:04:15 Oninions on MENT for a cycle and stand alone TRT1:07:00 Proviron in PCT?Reach out to Dave : Croslands.org.ukReach out to Scott : [email protected] MP3
Turinabol (TBOL): The Ultimate Guide
Turinabol (chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) is a potent oral anabolic steroid with a unique history, being the only AAS created for non-medicinal purposes.
Instead, turinabol was formulated to help East Germany’s athletic team gain an unfair advantage in the Olympic Games, between 1968 and 1989.
This was a state-sponsored doping program, known as “State Plan Research Theme 14.25”, where the objective of the nation was to completely dominate sports.
Consequently, trainers would supply athletes with “vitamins” (a deceptive label) that would evade detection in drug tests.
Approximately 10,000 male and female athletes, including children as young as 10 years old, experienced great increases in muscular strength, hypertrophy (size) and endurance.
The athletes essentially acted as non-consenting lab rats, completely unaware of what was being given to them.
It wasn’t until the 1990s, where it finally become known that turinabol was the secret compound behind the ‘East German Doping Machine‘.
Dianabol Derivative
German scientists had observed the potent effects of dianabol in Olympic athletes, after Dr. John Ziegler successfully created a steroid more anabolic than testosterone.
However, they also recognized that dianabol led to notable amounts of water retention in athletes, due to significant levels of aromatization; causing a decrease in functionality.
Thus, German scientists’ objective was to synthesize a steroid that could replicate the anabolic (muscle building) and strength-enhancing effects of dianabol, but without fluid gain.
They successfully achieved their mission, creating a dianabol-derivative compound that possessed an identical structure to dbol, but with an additional 4-chloro alteration of clostebol.
Clostebal is a very weak anabolic steroid used in medicine for dermatological purposes.
This modification meant turinabol would not replicate dianabol’s estrogenic effects and thus dry muscle gains could be experienced, without any water retention.
Due to turinabol’s chemical structure, it is often referred to as ‘baby dbol’ in bodybuilding, with it possessing less potent anabolic and androgenic effects than its ‘father’ compound.
Turinabol was specifically designed to improve the performance of swimmers and gymnasts, leading to great medal success and several world record performances. Today, turinabol is also used by fighters, baseball players, weightlifters and sprinters; with Jon Jones being the most high-profile athlete found to have turinabol metabolites present in his system.
Turinabol Benefits
Increased muscularity
Enhanced strength
Fat loss
No Estrogenic effects
Weak Androgen
Due to turinabol being moderately anabolic and not causing water retention, it is often utilized as a cutting steroid to maximize fat burning and retain muscle tissue (whilst in a caloric deficit).
Turinabol also will burn subcutaneous fat stores, similar to other anabolic steroids, due to it essentially being exogenous testosterone and thus causing a reduction in adipose tissue.
Turinabol is not estrogenic, due to the 4-chloro alteration of clostebol, thus it poses no issues in regards to gynecomastia or fluid retention.
Tbol also is not androgenic, with an androgenic score of zero, thus cases of: acne vulgaris, androgenic alopecia (hair loss) and benign prostatic hyperplasia (prostate enlargement) are rare.
Turinabol Results
It may be used as a bulking agent among beginners, helping them to build 15lbs+ of lean muscle, however such gains in hypertrophy are unlikely among experienced steroid-users.
Turinabol is not suited for users wanting exceptional results in terms of mass gain, with it only possessing an anabolic rating of 54. Thus, if sheer size is the goal; testosterone, anadrol, trenbolone or dianabol are more potent compounds.
Dr. Thomas O’Connor suggests that turinabol may be more powerful than anavar, but less so than winstrol; in regards to its effects on body composition.
Results on turinabol will be slow and steady, with a half-life of 16 hours. This is double the time of winstrol and approximately 50% longer than anavar.
Therefore, turinabol is not an oral steroid that peaks quickly in the bloodstream and results in rapid muscle gains/fat loss, thus requiring lengthier cycles for the drug to build up in a user’s system.
Strength gains on turinabol are also profound, with a 1973 report stating that a dose of 10mg/day, administered to a female shot put athlete, increased her throwing distance by 2 meters within 11 weeks (1).
Turinabol Side Effects
Virilization
Liver toxicity
HDL cholesterol
Testosterone suppression
Virilization
Despite turinabol having a 0 androgen rating, it does have the power to cause virilization effects in women.
Such masculinization was evident during the 1976 Olympic Games in Montreal, where the East German swimmers had exceptionally broad shoulders and deeper sounding voices.
One possible reason why such effects became obvious, some 10 years after the athletes started taking turinabol, was because of dosages being gradually increased each year.
Also, since the early 1970s, many female athletes started taking other virilizing steroids; such as testosterone esters and nandrolone (deca durabolin).
By this time some of the athletes refused such treatment, due to these additional compounds being injectables (a less subtle form of administration versus orals).
It is difficult to gauge how potent turinabol is for producing masculinization in women, as the East Germany athletes were taking other steroids simultaneously; and for a lack of medicinal research conducted on tbol.
However, it is reasonable to assume that it is generally well-tolerated among females in cautious dosages; based on the imperceptible (unapparent) effects in its first few years of use.
Liver Toxicity
Liver stress enzyme markers, such as AST (aspartate aminotransferase) and ALT (alanine aminotransferase) will rise on turinabol, due to it being a c-17 alpha alkylated steroid and thus passing through the liver.
Some bodybuilders believe that turinabol’s hepatotoxicity is only mild, due to it being a generally well-tolerated drug.
This may be true, however users should not be complacent and use turinabol in lengthy cycles (beyond 8 weeks); as liver failure and jaundice is possible.
Dr. Thomas O’Connor had a patient who ran turinabol by itself for approximately 1-2 years, believing it to be safe, due to it being routinely prescribed to the East German athletes in the 60s and 70s. This patient ended up developing peliosis hepatis, a serious vascular condition where blood filled cysts accumulate on the liver.
This man required surgery, where doctors successfully removed parts of his liver, aiding in his recovery.
HDL Cholesterol
High-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels will decrease on turinabol, causing a mild to moderate spike in blood pressure.
This adverse effect on blood lipids is typical when taking any anabolic steroid, however oral steroids typically cause more cardiovascular strain, due to them stimulating the hepatic lipase enzyme in the liver (causing greater fluctuations in cholesterol).
Those who have existing high blood pressure or a history of heart disease in their family should avoid anabolic steroids in general.
To reduce the risk of hypertension on turinabol, users are advised to perform regular cardio and supplement with 4 grams of fish oil per day (for the duration of a cycle); due to it improving endothelial function and reducing plaque build-up in the arteries.
Testosterone Suppression
All anabolic steroids increase exogenous testosterone levels and decrease endogenous (natural) levels.
The degree of severity in regards to HPG (hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal) axis shut down, often depends on the potency of a steroid and the dosages taken.
Turinabol when taken by itself will cause a moderate decline in natural testosterone production, similar to anavar; however such suppression can be exacerbated if cycled in conjunction with other steroids.
To accelerate the recovery of endogenous testosterone levels post-cycle, users may incorporate a PCT (post cycle therapy).
SERMs such as clomiphene (clomid) and tamoxifen (nolvadex) have shown to be effective in restoring male hormone levels.
Bodybuilders often take 30mg of nolvadex per day or/and 100mg of clomid per day, with a PCT lasting approximately 30 days.
If a turinabol-only cycle is being performed, only one SERM may be needed post-cycle.
However, if turinabol is stacked with other suppressive anabolics, two SERMs may be taken synchronously.
For an increasingly aggressive approach, some users may add hCG to their PCT protocol (with 2,000 IU of hCG administered every other day for 20 days).
Turinabol Cycles
Turinabol is commonly taken in dosages of 15-40mg/per day. The lower end of this range is tailored for improvements in athletic performance, with 40mg being more optimal for bodybuilders looking to add lean mass.
Turinabol is typically taken for 6-8 weeks, which is a somewhat lengthy oral cycle, due to its longer ester structure (slow-acting properties).
Turinabol-Only Cycle (For Men)
Intermediate bodybuilders may choose to extend the above cycle to 8 weeks, if their liver enzymes and blood pressure is under control.
Some bodybuilders increase their dosage up to 80mg/day, however this is unnecessary and will cause great toxicity. If users experience no positive effects on 40mg/day, there is a high chance the compound is not actually turinabol, but instead a placebo (or heavily diluted).
Turinabol-Only Cycle (For Women)
Such low dosages of tbol (5mg) are unlikely to cause male secondary sex characteristics in women.
Females have only a fraction of a male’s endogenous testosterone level, thus only small dosages of steroids are needed to produce exceptional results and drastic improvements in body composition.
Turinabol and Testosterone Cycle
Turinabol and testosterone compliment each other well, with testosterone failing to pose any strain on the liver; whilst causing only mild fluctuations in cholesterol.
This duo be used as a bulking or cutting cycle, with it simultaneously promoting lean mass gain and fat loss.
Testosterone is one of the most effective bulking AAS, producing exceptional muscularity and strength gains. Cypionate and enanthate are popular esters among bodybuilders, promoting slow and steady, yet significant results.
If used as a cutting cycle, an anti-estrogen may be used to prevent water retention from the addition of testosterone. Letrozole or anastrozole are popular options, inhibiting aromatization (the conversion of testosterone into estrogen).
Erection quality and function can decrease in the latter stages of a turinabol-only cycle, due to its low androgenicity. Weak androgens often cause a decline in sexual health, due to the lowering of DHT levels. Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) plays a crucial role in nitric oxide production, needed for optimal blood flow and circulation to the penis.
Therefore, by stacking turinabol with an androgenic steroid (like testosterone), users can maintain high levels of DHT and nitric oxide production — preventing impotence.
However, high DHT levels can also cause more frequent incidents of hair loss (on the scalp), acne vulgaris and prostate enlargement.
Turinabol Reviews
We have collected several reviews from various anonymous turinabol users, giving our readers a better understanding of how this steroid affects different people.
Good size increases. Shoulders increased a lot more than I expected. Arms went from 14 1/2 to 15 1/4. Waist went from 32 1/2 to 34. Back also increased quite a bit, traps especially. Also had good muscle fullness most of the time. I did not experience big size increases till week 3-4. About midway through week 3 my weight started shooting up 2lbs a day.
My bench press went from 300 to 335lbs in 4 weeks. 40 mg tbol every day. Just a simple linear increase 3×5 for bench, 2-3 times a week. No libido or other problems, no bloat (legit tbol). Kept all gains, can’t understand the hate for orals.
Super underrated. For me, Tbol gave nice clean gains. My bench went up consistently 5 lbs every week and the gains remained after stopping. People always say it is Dbol’s little brother but I stopped dbol and went back to tbol because the gains were identical for me except with TBOL there was zero water retention and my estrogen didn’t skyrocket.
I had never run more than a mile in my life. On 50mg of tbol I ran 3 miles and then went for some squats. I ran dbol 30mg/day as well for the last two weeks of the 6 week tbol cycle. Smashed PRs in every gym session and could still run like a horse with evil dbol in me. Amazing stuff, would run it alongside almost anything.One of my favorite orals. While it may not pack a huge punch like superdrol or shred you down like anavar, it just seems to make everything work that much better. Since it frees up more testosterone, due to less binding with SHBG, it works great with test; and even better the more compounds you stack.
It was my first oral to kickstart my first cycle. I remember coming home a few weeks after the start, popping my shirt off to try on some new clothes my mum bought me and my parents were like…what the hell happened to your body. I didn’t get huge or anything, but I became an aesthetic beast on tbol that could work endless sets. I have not had one compound to date that gave me the same work efficiency and intensity over time as tbol has. Not even tren + superdrol.
Turinabol vs Anavar
Turinabol and anavar are similar, with both of them being orals and non-estrogenic compounds.
They both promote lean muscle mass, strength gains and fat loss.
However, turinabol’s effects are believed to be slightly more pronounced compared to anavar, thus tbol may have an edge in terms of muscle and strength gains.
On the flip side, turinabol may cause slightly more side effects than anavar, such as higher fluctuations in cholesterol, ALT/AST liver enzymes and further testosterone suppression.
Turinabol is considerably cheaper to buy on the black market compared to anavar, with oxandrolone being one of the most expensive steroids (costing as much as several hundred dollars per cycle).
Some users suggest that turinabol causes less synovial fluid dehydration, thus being more joint-friendly than anavar (and winstrol). This may be of interest to bodybuilders who perform fewer repetitions, lifting heavier weights.
Anavar is a female-friendly steroid that rarely produces virilization effects; and the same may be true for turinabol.
However, due to turinabol’s slightly more potent nature, it is fair to assume that anavar is a safer compound for women. Since anavar’s creation in 1962 there is more research available regarding its effects in women; plus it continues to be used in medicine today.
Turinabol however is not FDA-approved to treat any catabolic illness and is seldom taken by female weightlifters; making it a less understood compound.
Where to Buy Turinabol?
Turinabol is no longer available as a prescription drug in Germany, being discontinued in 1994. This was around the time tbol was exposed for being the compound behind the Government funded ‘State Plan Research Theme 14.25’ agenda.
Few pharmaceutical companies have produced turinabol since then, with bodybuilders now buying it through the black market (via underground labs). This is an illegal practice and carries its own risks, in terms of contamination/hygiene and potential spiking of products.
Summary: Pros and Cons
Pros:
Moderate increases in lean muscle
Fat loss
Significant improvements in endurance
No estrogen-related side effects
No androgenic side effects
Side effects are relatively mild
Suitable for women in cautious dosages
Cons:
Mildly hepatotoxic
HDL cholesterol suppressive
Lack of pharmaceutical products available