Advice for first cycle

[Repsforjesus]

I know everyone that test only is enough for my first cycle but I wanna try out Deca enough I’m just gonna try it on my first cycle .
Here it goes:

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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]-morning & post workout Insulin 5iu ED 4 on/4off/4on/4off/4on 180 syringes[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]-morning & post workout Igf-1 LR3 50mcg/50mcg day 4 on/4off/4on/4off/4on 180 syringes[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Deca 3 300mg/10ml 20 week 450mg (1.5ml)[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Test e 3 250mg/10ml 13 week 500mg (week 1 (750(2.5ml)+750))[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Masteron prop 3 100mg/10ml 100mg EOD 8 weeks [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Arimidex .5 EOD or [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Caber .5 twice weeks [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Wait 3 weeks [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Post cycle : Clomid 250mg day 1 100mg 13 days 50mg 19 days [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]1-4 8-12 16-20 insulin/igf-1 LR3[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]1-20 weeks Deca [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]1-13 test e [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]14-21 Masteron prop[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[thx]

I really don't recommend you using insulin.

This is a crazy first cycle. Most guys here will tell you to use only 250-500mg e5d with some orals.
You will get some good gains in your first cycle.
Try to keep it simple. Everytime you add a compound you'll get sides, then you have to add something else to counteract the sides, those compounds have sides etc.....

test ena 500mg e5d for 12w
Add some orals like tbol/anavar/dbol/win.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

First post. Nobody knows your background. Are you 6’5 300 pounds jacked and have 10 years of training or are you 6’0 180 pounds thinking that steroids are gonna make you swole?

You already seem to know it all already so what are you looking for here?

There’s a reason why everyone recommends a Test only first cycle. It’s the safest way to progress. Every compound has its own sides so when you use multiple compounds right away and run into issues how are you going to know what to adjust.

And insulin? o__O


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[pgb]

i'm with thx and bbbguy on this. there's a mnemonic called k.i.s.s. (keep it simple stupid). my first cycle was
sus 250 twice a week and 50 var ed. i got really good gains. also putting too many things in the mix at once, you won't know which one is causing problems if they arise.

 

[pgb]

you might also consider the adex only twice a week if at all. if your not gyno prone, you may do better using a serm, like nolvedex or clomid. you can get nolvabloat, aguadex or clo from the mc store on here. serms don't inhibit or stop your estrogen production and you still need some estro or you'll feel like crap. serms attach to the estrogen site to help block estrogen from causing gyno. caber you may need if you choose to do deca, but i would stick with just stick with test or test and an oral for your first cycle.

 

[Repsforjesus]

you might also consider the adex only twice a week if at all. if your not gyno prone, you may do better using a serm, like nolvedex or clomid. you can get nolvabloat, aguadex or clo from the mc store on here. serms don't inhibit or stop your estrogen production and you still need some estro or you'll feel like crap. serms attach to the estrogen site to help block estrogen from causing gyno. caber you may need if you choose to do deca, but i would stick with just stick with test or test and an oral for your first cycle.

So you’re saying .5 Twice week is enough to combat the Gyno from the Deca/test Deca/mast stack? I’m only switching from test to mast after week 13 cuz I know with test e you will plateau around week 13-14 and I heard Deca is minimum 16 weeks long and 20 weeks is fine . And doing only Deca would be pointless . Also if I were to switch from test to EQ or mast e it would take weeks for it to kick in so that why I’m choosing 1# different compound to hit different receptors and 2# short ester so kick in time is right away so gains keep going through while 20 week cycle. I’m currently on dmz/msten cycle and I’m disappointed. I will use Napsgear.com for gear.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

So you’re saying .5 Twice week is enough to combat the Gyno from the Deca/test Deca/mast stack? I’m only switching from test to mast after week 13 cuz I know with test e you will plateau around week 13-14 and I heard Deca is minimum 16 weeks long and 20 weeks is fine . And doing only Deca would be pointless . Also if I were to switch from test to EQ or mast e it would take weeks for it to kick in so that why I’m choosing 1# different compound to hit different receptors and 2# short ester so kick in time is right away so gains keep going through while 20 week cycle. I’m currently on dmz/msten cycle and I’m disappointed. I will use Napsgear.com for gear.

Scratch what I said. You’re a troll.


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[pgb]

Scratch what I said. You’re a troll.


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lmao, i getting the idea, he's not listening. i mean no offense, to reps at all. test is your base, you don't drop it. it is what keeps your testosterone levels up while on gear. you should at least run a trt dose on anything, just because steroids stop natural test production.

also, we do not name sources on here. that's a no no.

 

[Repsforjesus]

lmao, i getting the idea, he's not listening. i mean no offense, to reps at all. test is your base, you don't drop it. it is what keeps your testosterone levels up while on gear. you should at least run a trt dose on anything, just because steroids stop natural test production.

also, we do not name sources on here. that's a no no.

I’m trying to listen . Only problem i see with my cycle is that the recovery will be a bitch I don’t plan to blast and cruise so I’d much rather make pct for 6 weeks instead . But if you’re saying a test e only cycle compared to this cycle on my first won’t make much of a different then I’m pretty much wasting money right ? And I should save this cycle for my 2nd or 3rd ? So logically saying I should hit my potential on test e only than when I see less gains move to stacking then if I hit my potential on that I should incorporate other things like gh igf1lr3 and insulin

 

[Presser]

So whats the verdict lmao, im curious

 

[Dean Destructo]

DO NOT DO YOUR FIRST CYCLE WITH A PROGESTIN. You have to learn to keep your estrogens in check first. It would be crazy to have to deal with prolactin as well on your first go. Drop the insulin, that is just ridiculous. Ignore our advice and I guarantee you end up with metabolic syndrome lol. You will end up with missile nips! LMAO