Anyone here use 10iu+ of GH?

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Hey fellas, I was wondering if anyone here has ever used 10iu or more of GH a day. Generic or Pharm, just curious to see your personal experiance and even better if you have before and afters.

I'm running 5iu a day of high quality generics. I was considering going to 10iu but my coach said I'm better off going the distance rather then the amount. I have been on 5iu a day for a little over 3 months now and just recieved another 500iu from 6Fingers (Great TA and awesome person to deal with btw)

Here is a study showing the differences between 10iu Pharm and 19iu Pharm.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/...cem.85.11.6964

A study with 50 healthy men average age 25.6, showing effects of 9.5iu versus 19iu of GH (genotropin and/or norditropin were used)

The most relevant figure being this one (THE TOP CHART IS WOMEN, BOTTOM IS MEN)

http://press.endocrine.org/na101/hom...106964001.jpeg

The average IGF-1 level of 9.5iu in men came out to be around 800 and that was with pharma grade.

Also shows how much benefit falls off when going into a much higher range (19iu) seeming that the cost to benefit ratio does not justify itself strictly based on IGF-1 levels. Although individual pools of local IGF-1 in muscle can't be measured.

Study can be taken with a grain of salt, but atleast it can show some sort of baseline in men who are not on AAS, slin, and AI's where IGF-1 levels are effected.

 

[Powderguy]

What gains or experiences have you had at the amount your using now?

 

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If you check out my log, I have pictures of my physique. You can clearly see the difference in thickness and leanness my physique gained.

I always use test in my cycles, it gives me thickness but adding the GH puts it in the right places.
I also cheat my diet more (once a week as opposed to once every 2 weeks) and I don't retain water or gain fat off the cheat meal. It fills up my muscle bellies.

The biggest thing is nitrogen retention in the muscle. It gives a very full, deep look.

This is the start of GH and partially into my diet

About a month in

And currently

my biggest thing was bring out my delts
(relaxed)

(Flexed)

Rear shots
Before

After

 

[Mrbigz]

Wow, nice job bro. I've ran geno before 8 iu a day. It was awsome don't have pics thoufh.
What kind of hgh are you running?
It added size and thinned the skin for sure bro. You look damn good.
I'm gonna be running 10 iu a day here shortly soon as I correct a few thing.

 

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These were green tops off another popular forum sponsor. I just switched over to 6Finger red tops who is a sponsor on this forum. His test much higher then the ones I'm using currently and he is awesome to deal with.

If I could afford Genos I would love to try them, but I just can't justify 10$ per iu for pharm.

 

[Powderguy]

Yeah its hit or miss with some places. Nice progress, I don't run HGH because of the cancer risk and the carpel tunnel..i know to many who have had serious issues with this.

 

[crash]

Yeah its hit or miss with some places. Nice progress, I don't run HGH because of the cancer risk and the carpel tunnel..i know to many who have had serious issues with this.

The carpel tunnel is a bitch ive been on 5 iu a day for about 4 months into a 6 month cycle not sure if I would run HGH again probably stick with IGF

 

[Powderguy]

I hear that a lot from guys. I also like IGF and would use it before HGH. Unless I was trying to stay young. lol

I wonder if at that dose if guys get a lot of sides with it?

 

[Powderguy]

Also where are you putting 1cc of hgh? Are you spreading it out in different areas?

Seems like a lot of water to me, im curious

 

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I don't get harsh sides from my current greens. A little bit of stiff hands in the morning but I actually enjoy the feeling lol. I do however sleep like a baby when I dose 2.5-3iu pre bed. I have sleep apnea and hardly get rem sleep. The Gh puts me in it without a doubt. But I will be getting a cpap machine to solve this issue instead so I don't interfere with my strongest natural gh pulse. I also enjoy stacking GH peptides pre GH dose. It seems to amplify the effects of the GH without desensitizing.

I reconstitute 1ml per 10iu vial so 5iu per day. 2.5 per delt usually. Only reason I do the delt is because of ease.

 

[Powderguy]

Nice bro, at least your using it right. Are you stacking it with anything else?

 

[BigZ]

I've done a cycle of 10 iu per day. I remember that my fingers felt thicker, but other than that, I really enjoyed it. Slept well every night, and I had the best quality gains I've ever had. GH is one thing I really need to use again, but I wish it wasn't so expensive.

 

[kawasaki1]

I've gone as high as 30iu/ed for extended periods of time...For me the sides outweighed the gains. Was tired all the time, hands felt like they were going to fall off, could barely hold the steering wheel when driving!

I keep it at 5iu/ed now just for the maintenance properties...It gives me that leeway to be able to eat a little more junk without having to worry about the added fat! During those times when I am making a push (now usually more for prepping for vacation), I may go as high as 10iu/ed but just leading up to the vaca.

 

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Years ago I did this for a show and a looking back I agree sides outweighed the gains. However some are still pushing this plan and working there way to top 5 at shows.

 

[Presser]

Even at 5 i.u a day sides outweighed gains for me! Maybe its just me, but my hands were so numb that it actually hurt really bad, to the point i had to quit the hgh very early on, and i tried it again down the line and same outcome, lol so i just stick to the igf, but always wanted to run hgh for many months on end along with my igf and gear, but just couldn't take the hand pain

 

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I hear sides vary person to person and different GH suppliers. I do wake up with "tight" hands but not so much numb. I am very confident that you can reach a very high level of competitive bodybuilding without GH. I met a former IfBB Pro who was 5'7 275lbs at my recent NASM conference who was trained by Dorian Yates. He reached that level without using HGH or Insulin until his last year.

I do enjoy using GH, Slin & IGF. I look amazing when combining the three. But if GH was difficult for me to get, I would drop it. The gains are very long term committed and increased IGF levels have an impact on life longevity.

 

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Even at 5 i.u a day sides outweighed gains for me! Maybe its just me, but my hands were so numb that it actually hurt really bad, to the point i had to quit the hgh very early on, and i tried it again down the line and same outcome, lol so i just stick to the igf, but always wanted to run hgh for many months on end along with my igf and gear, but just couldn't take the hand pain

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is that a "ditto" as in you get same sides that bad brutha??

 

[PUMPED]

Hell yes... Plus I got tired of cutting my toe nails every few days. lol