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Beginner Supplement Recommendations

HalifaxGuy

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Hey Guys,

I am 22 and have recently begun working out, I have lost a decent amount of weight as well. I am 6'3 and weigh in at about 230(a guess since I lost weight-used to be 265lbs), I want to get big and muscular. There are so many products out there from protein bars, powers, shakes to pills and stuff.

What is your best and safest supplement recommendation for a beginner who wants to build muscle?

Thanks!
 
Agreed creatine is a solid choice! Maybe check out rxwhey.com for proteins and other OTC supplements.
 
It's not a supplement and its WAY more expensive than supplements, but nothing works better than food. After all these years I take creatine only prior to training and a protein shake after. Other than that its really just about learning what kinds of foods your body likes.
For me, beef is King.
What do you feel like your diet is lacking?
 
welcome to MC and keep researching and asking questions and trying it all. at your age I would suggest the same as the others. protein is where muscles come from along with lifting so when we suggest eating that means lots of eating and maybe whey protein shake after training and slow release protein like casein before bed. creatine works great for me I like the creapure monohydrate but one thing that helps me lift heavy ass weight is a good preworkout my favorite is muscle marinade by purus labs but I been making my own preworkout lately
 
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also at your age your budget might be tight so keep in mind the basics food, protein shakes 2x a day max, creatine, preworkout, and gym membership, don't forget 8 hrs of sleep and try not to party to hard or to much
 
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Yea like others have said and some random things that have really helped me: 8+ hrs of sleep, 1.5x your bodyweight in protein, do light intensity cardio in the morning to keep bf gain at a minimum, try to put bulk of your carbs before and after training, drink a gatorade while training, 5 g creatine ed, get na r ala and chromium from swanson and take prior to carb meals, look up a supplement called p slin and take 1 cap prior to training with carbs, train very very hard and heavy and make the compound movements the centerpiece of training. Good luck man. It's really fun when you first start out so enjoy it!
 
Thanks!
I feel my diet is lacking sources of protein and food that fill you up so you don't feel hungry a few hours later.
I usually stock up on chicken and steaks when they're on sale, but I don't really know how to make an effective meal plan.
Yeah food can be costly, I'm not fussy about what I eat though.

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It's not a supplement and its WAY more expensive than supplements, but nothing works better than food. After all these years I take creatine only prior to training and a protein shake after. Other than that its really just about learning what kinds of foods your body likes.
For me, beef is King.
What do you feel like your diet is lacking?

Thanks!
I feel my diet is lacking sources of protein and food that fill you up so you don't feel hungry a few hours later.
I usually stock up on chicken and steaks when they're on sale, but I don't really know how to make an effective meal plan.
Yeah food can be costly, I'm not fussy about what I eat though.
 
Typically my eating goes like this each day, I can never keep it consistent...

Breakfast: Bagel, cold cereal, or 2-3 eggs
Lunch: Chicken breast, turkey wrap, or roast beef sandwich
Dinner: Chicken breast, roast beef sandwich, or whatever is in the fridge

At lunch and dinner I usually have some yogurt(mostly greek) or a granola bar as well, I drink a lot of skim milk throughout the day. I find it hard to determine what is a good portion for a meal, and frequency. Sometimes I skip the odd meal if I don't get home till late at night - is there a cut off time for when you should stop eating?

I don't drink often, but when I do I tend to stay away from beer - I don't want a beer gut. I don't eat out often or get fast food often, if I do, it's typically a wrap or something remotely healthy. I do a lot of walking in the run of a day as well. Like I said, I'm not a fussy eater; so any recommendations/links for filling and protein filled foods will be accepted.

Thank, you guys have been great!
 
Typically my eating goes like this each day, I can never keep it consistent...

Breakfast: Bagel, cold cereal, or 2-3 eggs
Lunch: Chicken breast, turkey wrap, or roast beef sandwich
Dinner: Chicken breast, roast beef sandwich, or whatever is in the fridge

At lunch and dinner I usually have some yogurt(mostly greek) or a granola bar as well, I drink a lot of skim milk throughout the day. I find it hard to determine what is a good portion for a meal, and frequency. Sometimes I skip the odd meal if I don't get home till late at night - is there a cut off time for when you should stop eating?

I don't drink often, but when I do I tend to stay away from beer - I don't want a beer gut. I don't eat out often or get fast food often, if I do, it's typically a wrap or something remotely healthy. I do a lot of walking in the run of a day as well. Like I said, I'm not a fussy eater; so any recommendations/links for filling and protein filled foods will be accepted.

Thank, you guys have been great!

So I calculated your BMR at roughly around 3500 calories. I assumed you train 3-5 days a week and have a sedentary day job. What this means is that if you eat under 3500 cals per day you will lose weight and if you eat more you will gain weight. To make the weight gain muscle, we try to eat clean. That way our body has the best chance at absorbing the food and using it for muscle instead of turning it into fat. With that said, almost nobody I know that is considered big or strong eats completely clean. You get to the point where in order to grow or maintain what you have it becomes necessary to throw in some calorie dense "junk" to reach you set calorie goal. However, you can easily get to 3500 cals with clean food. If I were you, I'd get very lean (8% or less ie full abs and very little fat around waist) before trying to get any bigger. You could do this by starting at 3000 calories per day for 2 weeks and then dropping the calories from fat and carb sources by 300 calories per week until you reach your goal. During this time, continue with your normal training (it should be very intense and centered around compound movements ie dl, bp, squat, shoulder press, ect...) and do 30 minutes of starved cardio in the morning 5 days a week. If you are already this lean, I would begin by eating 3600 calories ed for a month, then increase 100 calories per week until you start to see fat gains. When you start to see fat, go back to the 3000 calores for a week to get rid of the fat then return to the highest calorie number that netted you no fat (ie the week before you saw the fat gains). Stick to this for a couple months and you should see some great gains.

Now designing diets for people is difficult because everyone is different. Knowing your body is the single most important aspect in all of this. Everyone who is big or strong knows every aspect of how their body reacts to things. With that said, here is a sample diet:

Breakfast: 50g protein, 50g carb, 0g fat -----> we don't want fat bc it slows digestion of protein and protein is very impt in morning since you have been starving all night.
Meal 2: 50g protein, 40g fat
Meal 3: 50g protein, 50g carb
Pre workout meal: 50g protein, 50g carb, 20g fat
During/after Workout: 32 oz gatorade
Right after workout: 2 scoop whey protein
1 hr after workout: 50g protein, 75g carb
Before bed: 50g protein, 30g fat

Totals: 350g protein = 1400 cals, 275g carbs = 1100 cals, 90g fat = 810 calories ----> 3310 calories (leaves 200 calories for a little junk).

This diet is far from perfect, but it's a good guideline and lightyears better than your current approach. Hopefully others will chime in and let us know if you have anymore questions.
 
Fstr03svtcobra, this is awesome and comes at a good time. I am off this weekend, so I will be able to do some meal prep and figuring out the various protein, carb, fat, and calorie intakes.

Should I be more focused on the protein/carbs or the calories?
My work schedule is currently Tuesday - Saturday 2pm - 10pm, I spend Sunday and Monday really focusing on gym time.

Currently I'm 6ft 3in and about 230lbs with a 34 waist; 8% may take some time, but I'll do it! It's my upper body that needs the most work.
I will be sure to keep you guys updated on my progress; exactly one year ago I was about a size 38 weighing in at about 250lbs.
 
Fstr03svtcobra, this is awesome and comes at a good time. I am off this weekend, so I will be able to do some meal prep and figuring out the various protein, carb, fat, and calorie intakes.

Should I be more focused on the protein/carbs or the calories?
My work schedule is currently Tuesday - Saturday 2pm - 10pm, I spend Sunday and Monday really focusing on gym time.

Currently I'm 6ft 3in and about 230lbs with a 34 waist; 8% may take some time, but I'll do it! It's my upper body that needs the most work.
I will be sure to keep you guys updated on my progress; exactly one year ago I was about a size 38 weighing in at about 250lbs.

That's awesome progress brother. Keep up the good work. Don't neglect your legs. It's very rare people need to concentrate on upper body. Honestly it won't take that long to get to 8%. If you really concentrate, you could do it in 3 months or less.

Addressing your question, do exactly what I said as far as the diet. So concentrate on both (but since a calorie is a unit of energy and each gram carb and protein contains 4 calories and each gram of fat contains 9 calores), you can't do one without the other LOL. When you decide what food to eat, post it up. Stay away from crappy carbs like white breads and sugars.
 
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