I've recently been offered a job as a bouncer, i'd be working with my brother and some other guys I know, i'm seriously considering trying it out, but first i'd like to hear from some guys who've done it/ do it, i'd like to know their opinion on me trying bouncing. I'm 18, 6' 210 and train like a bodybuilder/weightlifter/powerlifting
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Lord Odin
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Go for It!!
I have done it and the chicks love the bouncers, I agree with Tool, Have fun and get laid as much as humanly possible, I did!!LOL!!!
It is a serious job to and you must always rember to get respect, you must give respect!!!
I have done it and the chicks love the bouncers, I agree with Tool, Have fun and get laid as much as humanly possible, I did!!LOL!!!
It is a serious job to and you must always rember to get respect, you must give respect!!!
ColdHeartBear
V.I.P
I have had several gigs as a bouncer (about 6 years total). You must act in a way that meets with the expectations of your employer based on the quality of the cleintele of the establishment you work in. If you are partnered with some experienced bouncers let them show you the ropes. Don't think you know all about their job just from being on the other side.
And just being big is not enough if you work a rough joint. You may need to know how to actually fight. Rule #1 is never confront anyone by yourself. But experienced fighters always seem to manage to get a bouncer seperated from his partners. And no, most real fighters could care less about black belts. Belts are ass wipers for a real fighter.
Rule #2 is not all drunks are incapable of fighting. Some drunks are very good at fighting drunk. I got 4 scars from 3 different episodes with "drunks" too drunk to fight.
There was an excellent fighting book made by a professional bouncer sold UG, but I lent mine to a clown who did not return it, and have not seen it since the 80's. It came from Paladin Press.
And just being big is not enough if you work a rough joint. You may need to know how to actually fight. Rule #1 is never confront anyone by yourself. But experienced fighters always seem to manage to get a bouncer seperated from his partners. And no, most real fighters could care less about black belts. Belts are ass wipers for a real fighter.
Rule #2 is not all drunks are incapable of fighting. Some drunks are very good at fighting drunk. I got 4 scars from 3 different episodes with "drunks" too drunk to fight.
There was an excellent fighting book made by a professional bouncer sold UG, but I lent mine to a clown who did not return it, and have not seen it since the 80's. It came from Paladin Press.
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bro--
i am a bouncer here in san diego (though i work the front door now)
& honestly, ive never had the opportunity to for more bangin than i have had in the past year & 1/2--
ColdHeartBear is right--drunks cannot fight at all!!! its soo funny-
im only 5'9" & roughly 2 bills, & ive handled some of the san diego chargers defenisive linemen because they were so drunk--
its not a big deal--
usually, once whoever is fighting see's your security shirts & about 4 or 5 of you rushing them, they usually chill pretty quickly--
just allways look for beer bottles in peoples hands!!!!
dont wanna get one across the face now do we?
i am a bouncer here in san diego (though i work the front door now)
& honestly, ive never had the opportunity to for more bangin than i have had in the past year & 1/2--
ColdHeartBear is right--drunks cannot fight at all!!! its soo funny-
im only 5'9" & roughly 2 bills, & ive handled some of the san diego chargers defenisive linemen because they were so drunk--
its not a big deal--
usually, once whoever is fighting see's your security shirts & about 4 or 5 of you rushing them, they usually chill pretty quickly--
just allways look for beer bottles in peoples hands!!!!
dont wanna get one across the face now do we?
coldheartbear was saying that drunks can fight bro...I've seen some asshole's kick the shit out of people while drunk.
redox
V.I.P.
no more
I gave up bouncing last year,i used to work in this big club playing hardtekno music,full of kids high on drugs,all from the "bad"neighboroud of my city,most of them carring a knife or a steelfist.we stopped this kid that was around 18 at the door because he was high,really agressive and we found some drugs on him..we sent the pussy away and he said this is not finished here...a couple of hours later a girl tells me and another bouncer that somebody is sick in the parking lot,as we walk there a car with no lights on arrives at full speed and hits me in full,i flew on the windshield and than on the ground.doctor said that if i wasnt 200 pounds and the car wasnt a shitty italian fiat 1 i would be dead..instead i had a brain concussion,i broke my chechbone,broke my shoulder,broke 5 ribs and also my meniscus...i havent been able to train for 6 month went from 200 to 210 but of fat,once i could run i started dieting and today i weight 160,but thanks to muscle memory i am slowly coming back,strenght is increasing every workout..so no more bouncing for me now i rather join the marines as soon as i become an american citizen
I gave up bouncing last year,i used to work in this big club playing hardtekno music,full of kids high on drugs,all from the "bad"neighboroud of my city,most of them carring a knife or a steelfist.we stopped this kid that was around 18 at the door because he was high,really agressive and we found some drugs on him..we sent the pussy away and he said this is not finished here...a couple of hours later a girl tells me and another bouncer that somebody is sick in the parking lot,as we walk there a car with no lights on arrives at full speed and hits me in full,i flew on the windshield and than on the ground.doctor said that if i wasnt 200 pounds and the car wasnt a shitty italian fiat 1 i would be dead..instead i had a brain concussion,i broke my chechbone,broke my shoulder,broke 5 ribs and also my meniscus...i havent been able to train for 6 month went from 200 to 210 but of fat,once i could run i started dieting and today i weight 160,but thanks to muscle memory i am slowly coming back,strenght is increasing every workout..so no more bouncing for me now i rather join the marines as soon as i become an american citizen
ColdHeartBear
V.I.P
I know I have an uncomfortable syntax which is why some people are not able to understand my points. So to give a little more perspective let me clarify with some specific facts. I have handled well over a thousand drunks. Most were unable to do more than bluster and throw useless weak ass punches. But about 30 or so could fight at least as well drunk as I have seen sober punks fight and they feel no pain. The problem is you get so used to dealing with the wet noodles that the tough guy is mistaken for the wimp. You end up leaving yourself open to a cheap shot or a concealed weapon.
I wore a nylon bullet resistant vest with 2 front panels of kevlar. And yeah it was freakin' hot. But after the first drunk too drunk too fight left an 8" long and over 1/2" deep knife scar on my abdomen I wore it almost every working day. Unfortunately I was too fat to wear it intact (300 lbs +) so I left an 8" gap in the back so as to cover my front. Even so it must have taken the brunt of well over 50 knives, 100 broken bottles, 3 tire irons, and an assortment of expedients.
Even after 2 years experience I was suckered in "helping" a drunk walk to his buddies car and told my 2 pards I could handle it as I knew the guy (which I did). He stabbed me in the neck with a screwdriver while I was putting him into the car. I thought (with all the blood) that he had finished me so I attempted to kill him. And he put up a good 4 minute fight for his life before I snapped his neck and strangled him into unconciousness. I collapsed about 6 minutes later in the club from loss of blood. I lost the gig because of it, and how he survived I have no idea. The state refused to prosecute either way because of the circumstances.
Yeah some drunks can fight like tigers.
But the real guys to watch are the fisheyed creeps who look to get you seperated from your pards to take you out and build a rep off of your ass. The problem is they know how to fight and they are a lot smaller than you would expect of someone who can actually whip you. Many a time only the vest was the difference between a successfull fold and a trip to the morgue. In that state today only police can legally wear vests. So only crooks and cops have them. Go figure.
I wore a nylon bullet resistant vest with 2 front panels of kevlar. And yeah it was freakin' hot. But after the first drunk too drunk too fight left an 8" long and over 1/2" deep knife scar on my abdomen I wore it almost every working day. Unfortunately I was too fat to wear it intact (300 lbs +) so I left an 8" gap in the back so as to cover my front. Even so it must have taken the brunt of well over 50 knives, 100 broken bottles, 3 tire irons, and an assortment of expedients.
Even after 2 years experience I was suckered in "helping" a drunk walk to his buddies car and told my 2 pards I could handle it as I knew the guy (which I did). He stabbed me in the neck with a screwdriver while I was putting him into the car. I thought (with all the blood) that he had finished me so I attempted to kill him. And he put up a good 4 minute fight for his life before I snapped his neck and strangled him into unconciousness. I collapsed about 6 minutes later in the club from loss of blood. I lost the gig because of it, and how he survived I have no idea. The state refused to prosecute either way because of the circumstances.
Yeah some drunks can fight like tigers.
But the real guys to watch are the fisheyed creeps who look to get you seperated from your pards to take you out and build a rep off of your ass. The problem is they know how to fight and they are a lot smaller than you would expect of someone who can actually whip you. Many a time only the vest was the difference between a successfull fold and a trip to the morgue. In that state today only police can legally wear vests. So only crooks and cops have them. Go figure.
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recon
MuscleChemistry Vet
Marc "animal MacYoung
I believe this is the gent you mentioned from the 80's , excellent reading....www.paladin-press.com is an excellent resource sight for those interested in defense, offense and all things that lie in between.
The guy you have to watch out for in the bar is the ones you don't see.....like me....I'm 5'9" 194lbs, normal rep weight bench 325x10x3, squat 450 x10x4 not terribly weak for my size.. in my oppinion not a fierce looking individual at all. father of four ,quiet, non-aggressive.... but I've boxed from the age of 6, 1st degree in Hapkido, permanent in Tae Kwon Do, well versed in joint locks, throws and chokes, taught phillipino loose hand for 2 years, prior service Marine (also taught prep troops in 1990-91 hand/hand and defensive knife fighting tactics),trained as well by SORT for the state prison system.Irish Catholic....always loved to fight growin up.
I'm not braggin or saying I'm a bad mofo, what I am saying is that if your going to bounce then realize that being a silver tongue devil is most important, calm , rational and able to calm situations without conflict. Don't fear the loud mouth talker, it's threat display like a dog growlin and baring teeth...raised hair. he wants to scare you out of fighting because he's scared. Fear what you don't see coming. The quiet guy who just watches and listens. He will act not talk. he will cut 3 arteries before you even realize the fight has started. The girls are a perk but the job can be a gamble. trust me, I know.
Just my .02.....be strong, be careful and be smart bro.
I believe this is the gent you mentioned from the 80's , excellent reading....www.paladin-press.com is an excellent resource sight for those interested in defense, offense and all things that lie in between.
The guy you have to watch out for in the bar is the ones you don't see.....like me....I'm 5'9" 194lbs, normal rep weight bench 325x10x3, squat 450 x10x4 not terribly weak for my size.. in my oppinion not a fierce looking individual at all. father of four ,quiet, non-aggressive.... but I've boxed from the age of 6, 1st degree in Hapkido, permanent in Tae Kwon Do, well versed in joint locks, throws and chokes, taught phillipino loose hand for 2 years, prior service Marine (also taught prep troops in 1990-91 hand/hand and defensive knife fighting tactics),trained as well by SORT for the state prison system.Irish Catholic....always loved to fight growin up.
I'm not braggin or saying I'm a bad mofo, what I am saying is that if your going to bounce then realize that being a silver tongue devil is most important, calm , rational and able to calm situations without conflict. Don't fear the loud mouth talker, it's threat display like a dog growlin and baring teeth...raised hair. he wants to scare you out of fighting because he's scared. Fear what you don't see coming. The quiet guy who just watches and listens. He will act not talk. he will cut 3 arteries before you even realize the fight has started. The girls are a perk but the job can be a gamble. trust me, I know.
Just my .02.....be strong, be careful and be smart bro.
ColdHeartBear
V.I.P
Yep....that is the book I believe. Most practical book for a bouncer in a river, coastal or border town.
I was working a dive in memphis when the only body guard heavier and stronger than me on Beal Street was killed by a 5' 10" 130 lb. woman with a hairpin (the old fashioned kind) 2 clubs west on Union.
In most of the gigs I was the backup guy because I have a somewhat irritating voice whan "hyped".
On the days I had to be the "face" guy the number of incidents rose tremendousely.
In the bouncer teams I organised we used a variation of the "sicilian" "bum" rush method of fight control: We worked in a triad with 2 backups as our modus operandi. The face guy with the 2 tallest guys would try to calm the "customer" down and encourage him to leave. The backups would surreptiousely be at nearby tables asking the patrons at those tables how their service was at our establishment while in reality we were waiting for the "hey rube" or the "stat" phrase of the night. When the "face" decided that the "customer" was not leaving quietly, then he and the other 2 members of the triad would appear to back off from the "incident". He would give the stat and the backups would bum rush the 1 or 2 trouble makers and hustle them out the door with the triad clearing the way. Only rarely did the "customer" react in time to actually try to throw a punch and almost always he immediately regretted it as we could then really hurt him.
Because of my size, strength, and well over 200 real fights, from the first 9 months of working as a bouncer, I was usually the chief "folder".
How to lose a job as bouncer:
Get a reputation of starting "incidents".
Making a mess.(rushing a BigWig even though justified)
Not following the plan.
Getting recognised. (becoming the target of people wanting to build a rep off your ass)
Using. (drugs or booze)
Doing favors.(this is so contradictory that it is almost undefinable. Most cases you, as doorman, can't let in "unauthorised" customers, OTH if they are really pretty "boys" or girls then you are supposed to let them in to attract more customers. They also do not usually want trouble as it was a "favor" for them to even be in the joint.)
Boss's budy. I have never seen the nonlover of the boss who is merely a buddy last more than 4 months. Of course during the buddy time everyone has to tiptoe around the buddy to keep his job.
"Bustin' the cook". This is the bullying anyone who works for the establishment outside the bouncer crews. It goes on all the time but the boss eventually fires the bouncer. Most of us oldtimers have a theory as to where this phrase originated but I really don't know.
Stringin' - hiring or recommending the hiring of your buddies. It happens all the time but eventually the stringer gets fired, including me twice.
Bummin'- getting too much in the way of freebies. Bouncers live on freebies but abuse the priv lose the job.
punk- steal from establishment, or customers. Bouncers are always accused of taking wallets off of customers and many do so, but if you get caught at it, then expect to be fired and prosecuted by every dick and jane who ever claimed a bouncer stole within the last year.(the boss will be charging you as well. He does not have to pay unemployment on your ass and he gets a free ride.)
Chicken: if you ever back off an incident before it is resolved by way of the plan you are blackballed as a bouncer. I am too old to go back in the biz but there is nothing I hate worse than a chicken.
Anything the boss decides as terminable. Note in previous post that I was terminated even though I was nearly killed. There are 3 grounds that justify the boss's action. 1. I was "recognised"; 2. I tried to kill a "customer": and 3. I did not follow the plan. (my own plan BTW) OTH if I had backed off after being wounded I could also be terminated for being "chicken".
I was working a dive in memphis when the only body guard heavier and stronger than me on Beal Street was killed by a 5' 10" 130 lb. woman with a hairpin (the old fashioned kind) 2 clubs west on Union.
In most of the gigs I was the backup guy because I have a somewhat irritating voice whan "hyped".
On the days I had to be the "face" guy the number of incidents rose tremendousely.
In the bouncer teams I organised we used a variation of the "sicilian" "bum" rush method of fight control: We worked in a triad with 2 backups as our modus operandi. The face guy with the 2 tallest guys would try to calm the "customer" down and encourage him to leave. The backups would surreptiousely be at nearby tables asking the patrons at those tables how their service was at our establishment while in reality we were waiting for the "hey rube" or the "stat" phrase of the night. When the "face" decided that the "customer" was not leaving quietly, then he and the other 2 members of the triad would appear to back off from the "incident". He would give the stat and the backups would bum rush the 1 or 2 trouble makers and hustle them out the door with the triad clearing the way. Only rarely did the "customer" react in time to actually try to throw a punch and almost always he immediately regretted it as we could then really hurt him.
Because of my size, strength, and well over 200 real fights, from the first 9 months of working as a bouncer, I was usually the chief "folder".
How to lose a job as bouncer:
Get a reputation of starting "incidents".
Making a mess.(rushing a BigWig even though justified)
Not following the plan.
Getting recognised. (becoming the target of people wanting to build a rep off your ass)
Using. (drugs or booze)
Doing favors.(this is so contradictory that it is almost undefinable. Most cases you, as doorman, can't let in "unauthorised" customers, OTH if they are really pretty "boys" or girls then you are supposed to let them in to attract more customers. They also do not usually want trouble as it was a "favor" for them to even be in the joint.)
Boss's budy. I have never seen the nonlover of the boss who is merely a buddy last more than 4 months. Of course during the buddy time everyone has to tiptoe around the buddy to keep his job.
"Bustin' the cook". This is the bullying anyone who works for the establishment outside the bouncer crews. It goes on all the time but the boss eventually fires the bouncer. Most of us oldtimers have a theory as to where this phrase originated but I really don't know.
Stringin' - hiring or recommending the hiring of your buddies. It happens all the time but eventually the stringer gets fired, including me twice.
Bummin'- getting too much in the way of freebies. Bouncers live on freebies but abuse the priv lose the job.
punk- steal from establishment, or customers. Bouncers are always accused of taking wallets off of customers and many do so, but if you get caught at it, then expect to be fired and prosecuted by every dick and jane who ever claimed a bouncer stole within the last year.(the boss will be charging you as well. He does not have to pay unemployment on your ass and he gets a free ride.)
Chicken: if you ever back off an incident before it is resolved by way of the plan you are blackballed as a bouncer. I am too old to go back in the biz but there is nothing I hate worse than a chicken.
Anything the boss decides as terminable. Note in previous post that I was terminated even though I was nearly killed. There are 3 grounds that justify the boss's action. 1. I was "recognised"; 2. I tried to kill a "customer": and 3. I did not follow the plan. (my own plan BTW) OTH if I had backed off after being wounded I could also be terminated for being "chicken".
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crazyhorse09
New member
I too am looking to get a job as a bouncer during the summer while im not in school. How much did you guys usually make? I got offered a job but turned it down, the guy said I would be making at least $100/night. I should have taken the job instead of staying as a host at a restaurant...regretted that choice for the next 6 monthes.
Do you think I could get hired for just the summer? (3 monthes)...hopefully I can get a position somewhere...
Do you think I could get hired for just the summer? (3 monthes)...hopefully I can get a position somewhere...
ColdHeartBear
V.I.P
Word of mouth is usually the best source for bouncer jobs which means you need to network with bouncers.
Problem with summer work is the clubs have all these ready talent (idiots) that they hire and fire every 3 weeks.
If you are in college check out the jock frats who get a lot of these summer jobs. They do not pay that well though.
Problem with summer work is the clubs have all these ready talent (idiots) that they hire and fire every 3 weeks.
If you are in college check out the jock frats who get a lot of these summer jobs. They do not pay that well though.
BluOvalFive_HO
New member
Wow...Blackbear...i bet you could tell thousands upon thousands of stories...i feel very lucky to have had tha oppurtunity to read a lil bit of your history...im in aw!
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eddiez
Guest
Black bear you and i lead a similiar life my friend...all those posts by him i bump...i bounced and managed a bar while in college...it was great the first two years then the bar got rough and i got rep....i am 5-10 and 230 pounds....i have street foughten...boxed...and martial arts..i hold my own.
I got sued from fight i was breaking up for $130,000 i stopped after that...the boss acted like a punk and the dude had date raped a girl and was 6-2 270 pounds but all they focused on was i had a "rep"...not worth it bro trust me.....
I got sued from fight i was breaking up for $130,000 i stopped after that...the boss acted like a punk and the dude had date raped a girl and was 6-2 270 pounds but all they focused on was i had a "rep"...not worth it bro trust me.....
bigbaldbulldog
Banana
I HAVE BEEN BOUNCING NOW FOR OVER A YEAR AND I LEARNED REAL FAST NOT TO BE A HERO AND BREAK A FIGHT UP ALONE...NEVER DO IT ALONE..always get back up,clear bottles and look for his friends as well..never be too aggressive a good hold and a forceful push will go along way...if you end up embarrassing him in front of a crowd there isonly one way for the situation to go....be careful no matter what...it can be a cake walk 90% of the time and the guys who gave me the biggest problems were the 150 lb guys...it took 5- 250 lb bouncers to get thsi one guy out one night...weapons are always around..bottles, chairs , tables feet teeth anything...learn a few good holds to disarm of subdue a guy and you'll be better prepared for anything to come your way...Good luck Stay safe.
bigbaldbulldog
Banana
What did you decied to do?? are ya gonan bounce or stay healthy and safe and stay home...if don't have to do it..DON"T !! It looks easier then it really is .......
bigbaldbulldog
Banana
only 1 of 2 things happen when you toss someone out...they leave no problems or someone ends up with stiches.....best of luck...if i could find a job that paid me $18 /hr to toss bags or dirt i would but....when things go wrong in a bar they can go really bad ....i held a guys brain in my hand 2 weeks ago waiting for the medics to show up...he got blasted in the grill outside the club for.....smoking, by some drunk we tossed out 30 minutes earlier ..he hit this guy so hard and with a cheap shot that broke his jaw immediately and he was out on his feet, then he hit the curb head first and split is nugget right open.
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