Testntren39
New member
Ok whats the crack with chinese generic hgh i know the colour of the top of vial means nothing. Are all chinese generic hgh all bunk or is there still some legit generic hgh coming out of china ?
Chinese generic hgh are they all shit ?
yes of course there are still legit hgh coming out of china, problem is its mixed in with a lot of garbage fake shit! here is what most guys do not know, chances your getting real chinese generics is about 30%, now if you are one of the lucky few percentage who gets real hgh, the next issue is guys are being sold 4i.u hgh as 10.i.u about 9 times out 10, so its a royally fucked situation over there!
Just cause a ug lab smacks on their own label and says its their own hgh, doesnt mean jack shit, you just have to know your source, and more importantly read reviews, thats where its at!
Just cause a ug lab smacks on their own label and says its their own hgh, doesnt mean jack shit, you just have to know your source, and more importantly read reviews, thats where its at!
Testntren39
New member
Thanks guys ive been lucky with my source for raws so hopefully their hgh will be hgh underdosed tho so i will be building up to 8 ius 5 x week just so im getting a decent dose im really looking forward to running just hope im lucky and dont end up with shit. Thanks for your imput guy much appreciated
Testntren39
New member
Thanks masher i will do.
Dianabolman
New member
Real hgh is a chain of 191 amino acids, on top of what presser said these generic hgh kits can be made with varied amounts of amino acids, but for an example let's say you buy generic and they have a rendered a 192 AA HGH, now you could take this and nothing happens but there's also a small chance that your body can react badly to it, causing the body to fight the 192 AA hgh the bad part part is because your natural hgh is so close in structure it could mistake it for the shitty one and now you're basically screwed bc your body is now fighting your own natural hgh which you all know could lead to various health effects so if it were me I'd steer clear of the generic.
Testntren39
New member
Thanks everyone for the advice it seems a big gamble to order chinese generic hgh ive been lucky with raws stuck with one company out of hong kong and they have never let me down with the quality of the raws but hgh is completety different im starting to think that i should wait untill i can offord a decent cycle of pharmagrade hgh like gentropin the price of it is mad tho i suppose you have to pay for quality. But i have been looking at igf1-lr3 and read many good reviews there must be something to this i havent read a bad thing about it. Plus its very easy to get good quality product so im starting to lean towards trying igf1-lr3 along with slin and my aas. As i really dont want to be unlucky with the hgh and get the 192 aa copy of hgh and end up messing my self up.
What Dianabolman said about 192 HGH is not true. 192 amino acid sequence HGH was the first artificial HGH developed by the biotech pharma Genentech. It underwent extensive testing and was approved by the FDA in 1985. It took Genentech another 9 years to develop a 191 amino acid sequence HGH that was identical to human HGH. the 192 HGH is made by a process called Inclusion Body Technology. The 191 HGH is made by a more complicated process called Protein Secretion Technology. The 192 HGH does work and the body does not react badly to it. It is called Protropin and is still made in Mexico by a company owned by Pfizer.
It is quite probable that the cheap generic Chinese HGH is 192 AAS sequence. Since it is cheaper to make than the 191 HGH. But if it is dosed properly it should work. My own experience with Chinese generic was no noticeable results from 3 different brands tried at 3 to 4 iu's a day. The only one that worked was Pfizer's genotropin.
Several years ago there as a big controversy over the use of bovine growth hormone given to cows to produce more milk. It was made by Monsanto and the FDA said it was safe because the amino acid structure was 35% different than in humans. This made it biologically inactive in humans. However because of concerns raised by consumer activist groups, Wallmart and other grocery stores stopped sales of the milk.
It is quite probable that the cheap generic Chinese HGH is 192 AAS sequence. Since it is cheaper to make than the 191 HGH. But if it is dosed properly it should work. My own experience with Chinese generic was no noticeable results from 3 different brands tried at 3 to 4 iu's a day. The only one that worked was Pfizer's genotropin.
Several years ago there as a big controversy over the use of bovine growth hormone given to cows to produce more milk. It was made by Monsanto and the FDA said it was safe because the amino acid structure was 35% different than in humans. This made it biologically inactive in humans. However because of concerns raised by consumer activist groups, Wallmart and other grocery stores stopped sales of the milk.
Did you test the generics, or just not feel/notice differnce?
I never had them tested. It would be like throwing good money after bad. There was no place around where I live that I know that could have tested them. I went by effect compared to genotropin. I never noticed any CTS(carpel tunnel syndrome) in any of the generics. You would think there would be some. Since there was quite a bit with genotropin.
One of the generics I tried was called glotropin, made by Global Anabolics. I should have known better to buy this brand because of the bad experience I had with their test prop. The pain was so intense that after 1 injection, I threw the rest away. But the price was real cheap for glotropin. I guess it goes back to the old saying, you get what you pay for.
Makes sense. Other sites have a protocol of shooting 10iu via IM and testing 2hrs later to see levels... but after that kind of pain, Id be pissed, too.
I think you may have confused the pain I had with the test prop and the HGH. It was with the test prop. You don't get pain from HGH injections. As to that testing you refer to, that is probably the Prof. muscle site. I have been watching them do that for years. They give themselves a high dose inj., then a couple of hours later they go into Lab corp and get their "HGH" levels tested. The problem is that Lab corp just tests for IGF-1 levels , then they use a formula to translate how high the IGf-1 levels are relative to the amount of HGH you have in you. HGH causes the liver to release IGF-1 into the blood stream. I am sure they don't test directly for HGH levels. The NFL and other major sports leagues testified before congress several years ago that they had no test to test HGH levels in their players. HGH was in widespread use by the players. It was only in the past several months that the NFL finally developed a test to test for high HGH levels in their players.
I used to be on the site Body of Science before they closed down several years ago. It was run by William Llewellyn. They used to test drugs at a lab in Holland. The last Chinese HGH I saw tested was Hygetropin. There was a lot of controversy about the drug. But lab analysis determined it was a real 191 HGH. The problem was that the lab analysis cost more than the price of the drug. Hygetropin was selling for about $600 for 100ius at that time. So the test cost more than $600. It is completely impractical for the average guy to pay this kind of fee for a complete analysis.
By the way the head moderator on the Body of Science forum was Ronny. He now runs his own site Juiced Muscle.com. They still do some lab testing of drugs, but I have not seen any HGH tested for some time.
So the only way to determine if a drug is good is to compare it to known quality drugs from a major pharma. The big problem is that these guys who rate it just say it makes them feel great and their skin tone is improved and they have more energy. WTF? You can take caffeine and have more energy. There has never been a study that shows that caffeine is bad for you. In fact it actually can prevent some illnesses. So you get these nebulous evaluations of HGH that don't tell you much. This is a widespread problem on all the BB sites. Even for regular aas cycles. I would like to see how much muscle they gained on a 3 month cycle. An inch on their arms, 3 inches on their chest etc. And even more important how much muscle did they keep after being off for 6 months.
yellow snow
New member
I have a script for pharma HGH and I have tried PSL's generic with similar results. The problem is how I compared the two is with sides. Pharma HGH makes me bloat and PSL's product did the same.
Just A Guy
New member
I did HGH back in the day until I realized I could get the same cutting effect from a TP/IGF/Winny combo.
Chinese HGH is mostly 192 AA and if its cheap its probably not in your best interest. The doc has me on Synthetic hgh and you will get it too if you take the wrong stuff.
Chinese HGH is mostly 192 AA and if its cheap its probably not in your best interest. The doc has me on Synthetic hgh and you will get it too if you take the wrong stuff.
Similar threads
