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Estrogens and progesterone are two hormones responsible for female characteristics. They can be produced as a side effect of anabolic steroid use when they convert (aromatise) into these hormones. Both are responsible for some of the side effects of steroid use, eg gyno (gynecomastia - female breast tissue development in males, aka 'bitch tits'), female body fat deposition, water retention, etc.

Anti-oestrogens are compounds which act to reduce oestrogenic activity in the body. This is achieved in one of two ways, and there are different drugs which fall into these categories.
Anti-Oestrogens

Competitive Aromatase Inhibitors
Competitive aromatase inhibitors bind to the same site on the enzyme aromatase as testosterone does. This allows less testosterone to bind to aromatase, which in turn means less is converted to oestradiol (the primary type of oestrogen). An important point to note is that the amount of inhibitor required rises with increasing steroid dose i.e. higher doses of Arimidex or Proviron are required to prevent the aromatisation of 1000mg/week of testosterone than 500mgs/week.

Arimidex (Anastrozole)
Arimidex is the perfect choice for when using high doses of aromatising steroids, or indeed even for moderate doses if the individual is prone to gyno. It is thought that it may be possible to lower oestrogen levels too much with Arimidex and for this reason blood tests are recommended to determine whether the dosing schedule is correct for maximum results, as it is theorised that some oestrogen presence is required to keep the androgen receptors 'open'. Arimidex has excellent binding qualities at the receptor and therefore only low doses are required. The main downside is its price; it is very expensive (see article 'The Price of Gear')

Dosing
Arimidex is supplied in 1mg tablets.
Usual dose is between 0.25 - 1mg/day. In most cases 0.5mg/day is sufficient.


Proviron (Mesterolone)
Proviron is an anabolic steroid with little direct anabolic properties. It has good binding qualities with the androgen receptor, but most never reaches the androgen receptor in muscle tissue, as it is enzymatically converted to diol. It is however effective as an anti-aromatase, and is believed to also act in an anti-oestrogenic manner due to certain oestrogen receptor down-regulation, making it a very effective compound for preventing gyno. Proviron also helps restore sexual dysfunctions caused by steroid cycling, helping to increase sexual desire as a result of the increased androgen levels, a downside can be permanent erections in some males which at first may sound fantastic but can be extremely painful, in which case the dose should be lowered or discontinued. Proviron will also help reduce excess bloating caused by water retention.

Proviron can be used effectively throughout clomid therapy as it displays no signs of inhibiting the HPTA (see article 'Clomid and HCG'), and is helpful in keeping androgen levels elevated until natural testosterone production is restored correctly. The androgenic activity is also responsible for the distinct hardening of muscles and is one reason it is often favoured leading up to competitions.

Dosing
Proviron is supplied in 25mg tablets.
Usual dose is between 25 to 100mg/day, in most cases 25 to 50mg/day is sufficient. Dose is best split am and pm.


Oestrogen receptor antagonists
Oestrogen receptor antagonists are weak oestrogens which bind strongly to a hormone receptor, but do not activate the receptor and make it unresponsive to the stronger oestrogenic hormones present due to the aromatisation of steroids.

Nolvadex (Tamoxifen citrate)
Nolvadex is not a steroid but a triphenylethylene with potent anti-estrogenic properties. Its clinical use is primarily in chemotherapy for cancer patients. It is very useful and successful in combination with a steroid regimen at reducing water retention and preventing gyno. Nolvadex is probably the most commonly used anti-oestrogen mainly due to its mostly positive effects, availability and low price. Controversy surrounds the fact that it anecdotally appears to reduce gains made on a cycle, mostly due to reduced water retention, but most users agree that losses, if any, are minimal and its always difficult to say what gains may have been made in its absence.

Dosing
An effective dose seems to be 10 to 20mg/day.
At first signs of a possible gyno, take 20mg/day until symptoms subside, then 10mg/day until completion of cycle and post-cycle Clomid therapy.


Clomid (Clomifen)
Like Nolvadex, Clomid is not a steroid but a triphenylethylene with anti-oestrogenic properties. The two compounds are structurally similar and their mechanism of action is also similar.
The general consensus though, is that Clomid is best left as a post-cycle natural testosterone recovery product and a more appropriate anti-oestrogen found, as Clomid does not seem to be as effective in this role.

Progestins

The presence of progesterone in male bodybuilders is through the use of the progestins, i.e. Oxymetholone (Anadrol, Anapolan50), Trenbolone (Finaject, Parabolan) and Nandrolone (Deca durabolin). A large problem for the bodybuilder is that the symptoms displayed by progesterone are identical to those of oestrogen, but the concurrent use of the typical anti-oestrogens appears to have no effect in controlling or treating it.

Progesterone tends to aggravate oestrogen induced gyno symptoms, making them more difficult to cure. We will look at some methods of avoiding or controlling them, bearing in mind that progesterone actually requires oestrogen presence to activate it in the first place.

Use with non-aromatising steroids
If progesterone requires oestrogen presence to activate it, then one method of avoiding this would be to use the progestins in stacks with non-aromatising steroids. Amazingly heavy androgenic steroids like Anadrol and Trenbolone are exceptionally mild and safe with regard to female characteristics when used in conjunction with non-aromatising steroids like Primobolan or Winstrol. This is great news for the gyno-prone individual who has previously avoided these stronger steroids for fear of gyno development. A simple stack of Anadrol and Primobolan will go along way to packing on some serious mass without the worry of developing gyno.

Competitive Aromatase Inhibitors
If aromatising steroids are to be included in the stack with progestagenic steroids, then the concurrent use of Competitive Aromatase Inhibitors, like Arimidex or Proviron, would also seem a sensible option. These can be incorporated to keep oestrogen levels low and avoid the activation of the progesterone. Although they will not help with already developed progesterone induced gyno, they can certainly be employed to avoid its development. As usual, the amount of aromatase inhibitor required increases with increasing dose of aromatising steroids used, but the best dose is still the minimum amount that can be got away with to produce the desired effect.

Winstrol
The use of Winstrol is also an effective method of controlling progesterone-induced gyno, as it is anti-progestagenic. An effective dose appears to be in the vicinity of 50mg eod (depot) or 30 to 35mg/day (tabs) although this dose may require increasing depending on the doses being employed in the stack.

One important point worth mentioning is, although generally the progestins do not aromatise, there is an exception to this rule: Deca, as well as being a progestin also aromatises, only very slightly, but nevertheless, still does to some extent. Although this is not nearly enough to cause the large majority any problems at all, for those extremely sensitive to gyno, this small amount of aromatisation to oestrogen can be enough of an elevation to activate the progesterone. Very few people are likely to suffer this, but we feel it is a point worth mentioning.
 
The symptoms of progesterone and estrogen are the same because any time you have gyno issues it is because of BOTH progesterone and estrogen , or the imbalance between the two. I am a firm believer if you keep E2 in check , you will not have gyno sides , even if you have high progesterone. Having High progesterone alone will not cause gyno, although it will cause a host of other symptoms, such as inorgasmia, lethargy, etc. Also it is interesting to note that LOW PROGESTERONE will cause the exact same symptoms.
That is why along of times it is counterproductive to take a lot of caber , as it will put a lot of folks in the dirt. As well as overdoing Anti estro. It is really is a dangerous game, and some times blood tests will not show the problem clearly.
 
Aromasin Functions & Traits:

Aromasin is officially classified as a steroidal suicide Aromatase Inhibitor, and carries the ability to inhibit the aromatase enzyme, which is responsible for the production or conversion of*testosterone*toestrogen. Aromasin has the ability to block aromatization, which in turn inhibits the production of estrogen, and thereby lowers the body’s serum estrogen levels. This will prove useful to breast cancer patients as breast cancer often feeds off the estrogen hormone. It will also prove useful to theanabolic*steroid*user.

Many*anabolic steroids*have the ability to increase estrogen levels due to the aromatase process, specifically the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. This can lead to*gynecomastia*and water retention. Excess water retention can also promote high blood pressure when it becomes severe.Steroids*that do not carry a strong estrogenic nature can also cause these effects, most notably gynecomastia if they carry a progestin nature. A prime example would be*Nandrolone, which while it aromatizes only does so at 20% the rate of testosterone. However, it also carries a strong progestin nature, and progesterone has been well noted for carrying the ability to stimulate the estrogenic mechanism in the mammary tissue. By administering Aromasin during the use of anabolic steroids, this will inhibit the aromatase process, lower estrogen levels and protect the individual from estrogenic side effects. How effective is Aromasin? The product claims on average to have the ability to lower serum estrogen levels by 85%.

Aromasin also has the ability to stimulate natural testosterone production, which is precisely why some will include it during their PCT. Like Arimidex and Letrozole, Aromasin will stimulate the pituitary to release more Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH), two hormones essential to natural testosterone production. While the other common AI’s share this trait, Aromasin has been shown to carry a slight*androgenic*effect, as well as the ability to increase the production ofInsulin-Like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1). This is a trait no other AI can claim to carry. By using Aromasin during PCT, the individual receives the desired testosterone boost necessary for recovery, but with the IGF-1 increase also creates a stronger anabolic atmosphere. This is deemed useful by some steroid users as it could potentially give them the ability to protect their lean tissue all the more during use. However, when we look at the direct effects of Aromasin as it pertains to PCT, we will find PCT use is normally not recommended despite these positive effects.

Effects of Aromasin:

In a therapeutic setting, by blocking the aromatase enzyme, Aromasin actively prohibits the cancer from feeding off the hormone necessary to its survival. It has been proven highly effective for this purpose, but only after the use of the Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM)*Nolvadex*(Tamoxifen Citrate) has failed. While effective, it is also not as commonly used as Arimidex for this purpose as Arimidex largely maintains itself as the primary AI in breast cancer treatment not only among post-menopausal women but in a host of breast cancer scenarios.

Then we have Aromasin as an anti-estrogen for the anabolic steroid user. By understanding its functions and traits you should already understand the effects of Aromasin in this regard. Excess estrogen levels can promote gynecomastia and water retention and possibly high blood pressure as a secondary issue. However, keep in mind such effects are not possible with all anabolic steroids, primarily it must carry an estrogenic nature, it must be able to aromatize to lead to such effects or carry a progesterone nature. Testosterone is the primary aromatizing steroid, but testosterone derived steroids like*Dianabol*can also promote strong estrogenic action. Then we have theBoldenone*(Equipoise) hormone, and while it only aromatizes at 50% the rate of testosterone, this is still enough to cause an estrogen buildup in some. Finally, we’re left with 19-nortestosterone (19-nor) anabolic steroids. 19-nor compounds will primarily include all forms of Nandrolone and*Trenbolone. As discussed Nandrolone aromatizes at 20% the rate of testosterone, but it also carries a very strong progestin nature. This can promote a fair amount of estrogenic activity in many men. As for Trenbolone, it does not aromatize at all, but its moderately strong progestin nature can make gynecomastia a possibility depending on the individual’s sensitivity. When use is coupled with an aromatizing steroid, this will greatly enhance the odds of gynecomastia. Regardless of the steroid in question, Aromasin can offer protection from the estrogenic effects.

An important note: Aromasin will have no affect on dihydrotestosterone (DHT) derived anabolic steroids as they do not convert to estrogen. Such steroids cannot lead to gynecomastia or excess water retention; it is impossible. The exception would beAnadrol*(Oxymetholone), while a DHT derivative, it carries with it a strong estrogenic nature. However, while estrogenic action is present, the hormone does not aromatize, meaning there is no aromatization for Aromasin to inhibit. The use of an AI will not affect the estrogenicity of Anadrol. For protection from such a steroid, the individual will need to inhibit activation of the estrogenic mechanism, and this will make SERM’s the first line of defense.

The final effects of Aromasin surround its use in a PCT plan. Due to the use of anabolic steroids natural testosterone production is suppressed. The rate of suppression will be dependent on the steroids being used, and to a degree, the total doses, but natural production will be suppressed nonetheless. Most male steroid users are advised to include exogenous testosterone in all their cycles in order to ensure they have enough testosterone to meet their body’s needs. This won’t be an issue for most men as testosterone is normally a base steroid in a cycle. If it is not used as a base steroid the individual should ensure he administers the minimal amount necessary to combat suppression.

Once the cycle of steroids is over, while exogenous testosterone protected the individual while on cycle, at the end of the cycle natural production is still suppressed. Natural production will begin again once all the exogenous hormones have cleared the system, but returning to your prior levels pre-cycle will take a lot of time. In fact, it could potentially take up to a year assuming no other anabolic steroids were used during this period. By implementing a PCT plan, we stimulate natural testosterone production, cut down on the total recovery time and ensure we have enough testosterone for proper bodily functions. This does not bring our total levels back to their previous naturally high state, but it speeds up the recovery and ensures we do not spend a lot of time in a*low testosterone*state. Not only is a low testosterone condition extremely unhealthy and bothersome due to a host of possible symptoms, it can see the lean tissue gained on cycle destroyed. During a phase of low testosterone, it is easy for cortisol to become dominant in the body, which will destroy muscle tissue and promote fat gain.

Due to the need for a strong PCT and Aromasin carrying extremely strong natural testosterone stimulating properties, this makes it very appealing for this purpose. Due to the slight androgenic nature and moderately decent promotion of IGF-1 this makes it even more appealing. However, we must consider the primary purpose of Aromasin, which is as an anti-estrogen. High levels of estrogen can be problematic, but the hormone is still necessary to our body’s health. It is important in maintaining a proper immune system, as well as in the maintenance of healthy cholesterol levels. Then consider the PCT, which in part is primarily designed to stimulate natural testosterone production, but the overall primary point is to normalize the body. We cannot normalize with low estrogen levels. For a proper PCT that not only stimulates testosterone production but promotes overall normalization, SERM’s should always be your first choice.



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