Desperately want to build muscle and mass! Looking for direction

[SkinnyScotty]

Im 135lbs 6' and 30 years old. I have done 3 injectable cycles over the past couple years with my first having the best result. I believe the first one was Test-E & Decca and DBol orally, ran cycle for 10 weeks. I gained about 30 lbs and felt great! Then I got sick about 5 months after my cycle ended and went right back to my original weight because I couldn't eat. I was pissed!! The second and 3rd I used different chemicals and did not have great result. I do remember my last cycle I used Cip and got Gynocologicalmastia (however you spell it) Fuck that shit. This time i'm looking into oral anabolics cuz my guy stopped selling. I'm looking at doing a 4 week 3x a day DBol 25, Decca 200, Tren 75 and Test 600x. I just want to get back to where I was before, cut and looking good! I have a muscular build as I am a farmer & I dont have an ounce of body fat. Any advise or direction friends??

Scotty

 

[Area 1255]

Im 135lbs 6' and 30 years old. I have done 3 injectable cycles over the past couple years with my first having the best result. I believe the first one was Test-E & Decca and DBol orally, ran cycle for 10 weeks. I gained about 30 lbs and felt great! Then I got sick about 5 months after my cycle ended and went right back to my original weight because I couldn't eat. I was pissed!! The second and 3rd I used different chemicals and did not have great result. I do remember my last cycle I used Cip and got Gynocologicalmastia (however you spell it) Fuck that shit. This time i'm looking into oral anabolics cuz my guy stopped selling. I'm looking at doing a 4 week 3x a day DBol 25, Decca 200, Tren 75 and Test 600x. I just want to get back to where I was before, cut and looking good! I have a muscular build as I am a farmer & I dont have an ounce of body fat. Any advise or direction friends??

Scotty

So you are looking to bulk, considering additional such compounds, with a diagnosed case of or presumed case of gynecomastia, and you think this is smart?
Am I missing something?
Did your gyno get resolved?
If you have issues with progestins in the past, maybe you should do some research into how to counter the side-effects....
I can understand wanting to get back where you were - but you need to take care of your overall health primarily!

Also, orals are very harsh on the liver.....you're better off pinning.

 

[MMX2]

I would also ask if your gyno was taken care of and if not what precautions are you taking to not make it worse?

 

[SkinnyScotty]

Yes bulk up. The weight loss however was not from a health issue rather withdrawl from medication. I did not have the GynoMas with the first two cycles and after being off of the 3rd and final cycle about 2 months went away on its own. I do appreciate your concern and care for my overall health. I would rather do an injectable cycle again and have found a few places online I could shop but i dont know who to trust. As I said before I got from a trusted friend who was very knowledgeable and helpful. The only thing about the first cycle of the Test-E and Decca was that it was very painful. My freakin ass cheek burned for a week and a half only to get better by the time the second week came to pin that side again! No pain no gain I guess. Im still confused as to what I should really take tho. I'm thinking if I pin to do Test-E, Decca and DBol but im not sure if I can find them all in injectable. I am aware of the liver toxicity in the orals but alcohol and acetaminophen have the same dangers correct?? I like the orals right now only because Anabolics dot com seems to have a good package and trustworthy buying.

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I would also ask if your gyno was taken care of and if not what precautions are you taking to not make it worse?

I did not have it surgically removed though did have an ultrasound done and was given the option to have it removed. As I said in my previous post I went away on its own about two months after the cycle was over. Never had that problem with the first two cycles nor have had any problems or it growing again since which was about 9 months ago.

 

[charliebigspuds]

I'm sorry I just don't get it. You want to take 4 different compounds on your next cycle seems a lot to me. I'm not going to say just shoot 500mg test per week for 12-16 weeks because the problem I think lies with the food intake. Please post up your weekly daily food log. Let's go from the bottom up and see where we can build from there. And have a read up on anti p and anti e but that's a whole other post. I've been doing AAS for maybe 8 years and never felt the need to do 4 compounds yet. I'm just a normal guy who like to look good at around 185-200 lb

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Also a big hint this is a sponsored site. :satan:

 

[charliebigspuds]

What I will say after rereading your post test E should be nealy painless after a day or 2 and after a few weeks you might not even have pain at all. Maybe your friend was not so knowledgeable as you think. My test E is smooth as silk not blowing my own trumpet well maybe a little bit.

 

[viciouscycle]

130lbs @ 6' I would certainly check your diet first brother.
what you think is enough food and what you really need to grow will probably surprise you. If you do not eat right while on cycle you wount gain much either.
sounds like you might have had some bad gear.
it shouldnt be painful unless your doing test prop.
I would get you diet dialed in and run a test only cycle maybe with a d-bok kick start. And see how you respond.
hang around and read through some of the older posts and I'm sure you'll find a good source or two.

 

[Area 1255]

Yes bulk up. The weight loss however was not from a health issue rather withdrawl from medication. I did not have the GynoMas with the first two cycles and after being off of the 3rd and final cycle about 2 months went away on its own. I do appreciate your concern and care for my overall health. I would rather do an injectable cycle again and have found a few places online I could shop but i dont know who to trust. As I said before I got from a trusted friend who was very knowledgeable and helpful. The only thing about the first cycle of the Test-E and Decca was that it was very painful. My freakin ass cheek burned for a week and a half only to get better by the time the second week came to pin that side again! No pain no gain I guess. Im still confused as to what I should really take tho. I'm thinking if I pin to do Test-E, Decca and DBol but im not sure if I can find them all in injectable. I am aware of the liver toxicity in the orals but alcohol and acetaminophen have the same dangers correct?? I like the orals right now only because Anabolics dot com seems to have a good package and trustworthy buying.

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I did not have it surgically removed though did have an ultrasound done and was given the option to have it removed. As I said in my previous post I went away on its own about two months after the cycle was over. Never had that problem with the first two cycles nor have had any problems or it growing again since which was about 9 months ago.

Be careful of online buying of these compounds, many sites are shady and their HPLC test don't always come out nor k to their purity on other levels.
Do plenty of research, you want to know not only how and what is legit but you need to know yourself what legit feels like, and you do need to understand that progestins carry the most potential side-effects , generally.

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130lbs @ 6' I would certainly check your diet first brother.
what you think is enough food and what you really need to grow will probably surprise you. If you do not eat right while on cycle you wount gain much either.
sounds like you might have had some bad gear.
it shouldnt be painful unless your doing test prop.
I would get you diet dialed in and run a test only cycle maybe with a d-bok kick start. And see how you respond.
hang around and read through some of the older posts and I'm sure you'll find a good source or two.

Especially at that height!

 

[charliebigspuds]

Well said ^^^^ Area 1255

 

[Presser]

Im 135lbs 6' and 30 years old. I have done 3 injectable cycles over the past couple years with my first having the best result. I believe the first one was Test-E & Decca and DBol orally, ran cycle for 10 weeks. I gained about 30 lbs and felt great! Then I got sick about 5 months after my cycle ended and went right back to my original weight because I couldn't eat. I was pissed!! The second and 3rd I used different chemicals and did not have great result. I do remember my last cycle I used Cip and got Gynocologicalmastia (however you spell it) Fuck that shit. This time i'm looking into oral anabolics cuz my guy stopped selling. I'm looking at doing a 4 week 3x a day DBol 25, Decca 200, Tren 75 and Test 600x. I just want to get back to where I was before, cut and looking good! I have a muscular build as I am a farmer & I dont have an ounce of body fat. Any advise or direction friends??

Scotty

Welcome to MuscleChemistry.com brutha, and it looks like the good brut has here have your questions covered, so again welcome

 

[charliebigspuds]

Yes welcome

 

[Presser]

bump it up for SkinnyScotty

 

[QuietStorm]

nolvadex to help keep estrogen from binding and causing your gyno, aromasin or another aromatise inhibitor should be used to stop estrogen conversion from happening and caber for prolactin issues should help you avoid any further gyno problems.
As for a cycle, you may want to consider test, tren, and kick start with dbol. Tren because it doesn't convert quite as easily as deca and it is king for muscle building. Since you know you can get gyno, I would recommend not mixing deca and tren at the same time.

 

[Ccjc81]

Dude,1 word EAT.your diet is crucial to putting on size.you won't grow if you don't eat and it doesn't matter how many compounds you run.and try maybe just doing heavy compound movements like a 5x5 program.train eat sleep grow.

 

[MixMan]

you could always order something from MC store - IGF for some slow steady gains, or something from Muscledepot

But consider that you check your diet, try to count your calories and too see what exactly and how much you are eating then increase it, it should work without gear. Also consider alternatives at first like ABCD diet to gain (when natural)

Good luck

 

[charliebigspuds]

Dont waste the server space. Clearly another time waster that did not get the answer he was looking for.

 

[kawasaki1]

If you are 135lbs after running 3 cycles then you are either doing fake gear or your diet is not even close to in check...Even if your gear is real, your diet is not even close to in check!

Eat, eat, eat...And then eat some more!

If you haven't broken past that weight after running 3 cycles then you don't need anymore gear right now...You need to get food in you and start moving some weights!