Dips and Pullups, who is doing these and how often?
IronJulius
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I really haven't done pull ups in almost a year I used to do the weekly but with inflamed elbow I tend to not be able to control. I did dips with chest last night and did them again today with triceps focusing more on tris
I'm a big fan of pull-ups! Body weight exercises in general, even though I don't do dips anymore. Flares my shoulder up quite a bit. Imo, It's the best exercise for developing upper back. I just recently worked up to 3 sets of 20 on pull-ups. I've been working at that for a while..
pgb
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i've pretty much always done both as a staple. not able to do a lot anymore, but still
do them. i have to watch doing dips as well, due to injuries. lately, i've just been doing
major muscle group exercises and it's helping with controlling the pain from old injuries
and arthritis.
do them. i have to watch doing dips as well, due to injuries. lately, i've just been doing
major muscle group exercises and it's helping with controlling the pain from old injuries
and arthritis.
I do pullups with every back session and dips when I do chest at the company gym. I actually built the chinup/dip bar for the company gym. How often really depends on work schedule and how busy work is.
I've been doing conditioning training lately with a trainer, and she often includes pullups (always supersetted with something else), so have been doing them pretty frequently.
I've been doing conditioning training lately with a trainer, and she often includes pullups (always supersetted with something else), so have been doing them pretty frequently.
3 sets of 20 thats pretty damn good Big Beef!
Yes sir! Worked pretty hard at it. I cranked out 25 reps the other day for 1 set. Surprising how much harder those extra 5 reps were! A lot of guys do pull downs thinking it will help them with pull-ups, when really it doesn't do a lot of good. Maybe a little, but it's just different. Better off just putting a stool under there feet & when they do as many pull-ups they can, put a portion of the weight on the stool & crank out some more. That's just my 2 cents though.
Big fan of push-ups too!
drtbear1967
Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
I cannot do a pull-ups worth anything. Never have been able to. I even worked out on one of those assisted pull up machines and that was the only way I could get any reps. It kills my shoulders and I think I have never been able to actually do them correctly. Oh well, I can crank out some dips!!
Interesting you say this. Neither my wife nor her (and now my) trainer can do a pullup. Trainer maybe... So she does, and has my wife do, "jumping pullups". My father also (who is 79, BTW) when she trains him. She recently had me doing a sequence of 5 deadlift reps followed by burpees, I think, 10 reps or maybe 15, followed by pullups. I forget how many reps, probably 10. When I start my back workout with pullups, I can usually get a set of 12 or so, then 10, then maybe 8 or something like that before I can't get myself up to the bar. Doing this sequence starting with dl, I was pretty fatigued by the time I got to the pullups. She had me doing these jumping pullups when I hit the failure point. I thouggt it was ridiculous, but if I just give myself a boost enough to get moving, my lats still do the upper part of the movement plus I get the negative. So it does have a benefit. And according to Soonya (trainer), this is a way to build the strength required to do a pullup.
I always figured lat pulldowns would be a good way to work up to pullups, but maybe not? I woukd think if you sat straight at the lat pd machine, and use only lats, shoulders and arms, mimicing the movement of dead hang pullups, it would be very similar...
Do you do neutral grip or wide palms out? The neutral seems to help my shoulder, even though I throw in some wide palms out some times. It's a tough exercise bro. Luckily, there are other ways to get the lats & upper back
I don't see anything wrong with trying dead lifts first, if it works. It's all about using whatever works.
The jumping pull-ups would be a similar way to assisted pull-ups or using a stool for portion of weight, though I recommend the stool.
In theory, the pull-downs would seem to work, but it just seems different. There are lots of really strong guys that can pull crazy #'s on pull-downs & still struggle with pull-ups.
pgb
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i have a lat pd and they don't help with pull ups. if i just use the lat machine, my pull ups suffer considerably. i have to use straps on my first set now if i want to be able to pull out 10, 11, or 12 pull ups. straps also allow me to get a wider grip without hurting my shoulders as much. lately, i've been flush setting pull up with lat pd. seem to be improving overall strength.
i also do pushups still. i do them as warmup, mostly, and crank out 40 or 50, with some other warmup exercises.
i also do pushups still. i do them as warmup, mostly, and crank out 40 or 50, with some other warmup exercises.
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