Jay has made history for himself already, yea a fifth does sound good but at this point jay will look great during his dieting stage but as the day of the show his body fades too fast. No matter what Jay could try to come in better next year but Heath will come in even better. I am sure that Jay is plenty of happy to lose to his friend but for example if it would of been kai, dexter, branch, or martinez I 'm sure Jay would of came back balls to the wall wanting his title back. As for retirement I think its defintely a possiblity but the real question is when will he retire. I know everyone expected him to announce it at olympia but he didnt. So Jay is unpredictable he may have something under his sleeve.