Feds trying to make all ph illegal?

[bigghorn]

Does anyone know about this new law the us government is trying to get started . Making all pro hormone related goods in same class as aas? This is another bullshit control we can't let happen if possible..

 

[Buffalo]

I haven't heard a specific push but I know a few PH's are illegal starting September 1st.

I wouldn't doubt there being a push for this. The hard part is going to be distinguishing what is considered a PH. It would have to be ingredient specific.

 

[tripwire]

I heard they banned jack3d . It's a pre workout stimulant. I don't know what's in it that resulted in the ban.

 

[CH3NO2]

All this does is push these kinds of products underground into a black market. That black market further endangers the public vs having these on the shelf at GNC.

 

[WesleyInman]

LOL!! They seriously banned Jack3d...how foolish....I actually got carded to buy B-12 vitamins at the pharmacy the other day....It is getting nearly out of control.

 

[bigghorn]

Jack3d is still sold.. Trying to classify dmae in it as a drug.The new law is chemical specific and list is long ..who knows if it's also just a bullshit story by some ph company to sell more crap...I'm
sure some sponsor will chime in here as to what's goin on..

 

[csuperman]

i personally dont care about PH, but i dont like the fact that they keep trying to pulling stuff from people

 

[CH3NO2]

Bottom line is people should be able to put whatever in their bodies they want. Its not the roll of govt to protect me from myself. Weather its pot, heroin, crack, steroids, Coke or French Fries at McDonalds. I should be able to consume whatever I want. Thats what freedom is, the power to choose.

 

[Zeus]

They do this every election year guys. There has been like 5 bans if not more already. They will never be able stop al PH/DS permanantly. Just have to change up a molecule and bang, it's legal

 

[exbeanpole]

Bottom line is people should be able to put whatever in their bodies they want. Its not the roll of govt to protect me from myself. Weather its pot, heroin, crack, steroids, Coke or French Fries at McDonalds. I should be able to consume whatever I want. Thats what freedom is, the power to choose.

I couldn't agree more! Oh and one of the newly banned prohormones is Superdrol...sucks cuz that's arguably the best one on the market.

 

[petrobond5150]

Senate Bill 3431

Introduced by Orrin Hatch and Sheldon Whitehouse on July 25th

Effective Aug. 29th if passed

There is a stipulation to also classify salts, esters and ethers as schedule III drugs as well so that the PH's can't be remarketed after an alteration of molecular structure.

 

[bigghorn]

Senate Bill 3431

Introduced by Orrin Hatch and Sheldon Whitehouse on July 25th

Effective Aug. 29th if passed

There is a stipulation to also classify salts, esters and ethers as schedule III drugs as well so that the PH's can't be remarketed after an alteration of molecular structure.

Does anyone know Orrin or Sheldon. We need to have a chat..

 

[mike ross]

LOL!! They seriously banned Jack3d...how foolish....I actually got carded to buy B-12 vitamins at the pharmacy the other day....It is getting nearly out of control.

this happens a lot in FL because law enforcement has told them to do so. Many people go to vitamin shoppe, etc to buy inositol or other B vitamins to cut cocaine with.

Guys you have to remember, the govt has way more power than you believe. The crackdown from what i understand in talk with Patrick Arnold is by the DEA. They are making most of the PHs Schedule 3 drugs, or C-III. Therefore they are not banned, but now fall under prescription status and good luck with the doc for that.
From what i understand, DHEA will be safe for now and some of the better derivatives such at 7-keto DHEA. everything else is gone...superdrol, ultradrol, anything based in p-stanz i believe is gone as well.

This is a two-sided coin. If you think the feds do not get mad at see such strong supplements, that for all tense and purposes are steroids, being sold as PHs, you are mistaken. They do see these boards, they do read what we read and what we type. You wouldnt think they would have time but they do. And when the problem becomes big enough, people make too much money, or they get annoyed, well they do this. I'll site 2 exampls for you...K2 or synthetic marijuana, legal for many years, now its not and was done so by DEA directive. Bath salts, the same. 2 very similar cases, with similar endings.

Jack3d is being phased out because it contains 1,3-dimethylamylamine, same as 1-MR and even explosion. 1,3-DMAA is a goner too and so are these supps. But im sure the research chem sites will still have things like this for research purposes...thats another gray area we'll see visited in the near future too...trust me

 

[big in vegas]

It's never going to completely go away, you'll still be able to find whatever you want and can still take what you want, there's just going to be the matter of taking these products with the risk of getting a possession charge. That's what is bullshit, something that you could once buy OTC will now be banned meaning you can stock up now, but there will be a point in time where you could get hit with a possession charge for having "too much" of it (like the whole sudaphed or ephedrine situation).

 

[chotto]

Why is Hatch introducing this bill? Most supplements are made in Utah (where he is from). Pro hormones must be primarily made elsewhere and he is protecting his voting base.

 

[mike ross]

from what i understand PH are made mainly in china and then purchased by american distributors...but then again, more than you think is done that way

 

[big in vegas]

from what i understand PH are made mainly in china and then purchased by american distributors...but then again, more than you think is done that way

Yet people wonder how our country's debt is ever growing