With first cycle tren or any tren cycle ACE is safest to adjust for sides!!!
So ace it has to be!!! Always with tren important to match ester close to same with test.
In this case tren ace would match best with test prop because of availability but test ace would be perfect match, although prop more than close enough!!
Sides from tren!! For myself and many others we have trial and errored to realize that lower test often makes tren more tame!!! In other words tren is a beast capable of getting hard on with enough test. It is so much of a beast that too much test is like a beast with a hard on for trouble!! We just need hard on for sex so lower test works!!
Tren is a cutting steroid, it is very androgenic and doesnt aromatase!!! It works too well for a cut and too good but sides not worth it for bulk. Too many better bulkers with less sides for bulk!! Tren is a muscle holder and cutter that dries us out, it gives max nutrition partitioning and plays big role in cut!! It will give us results and a different look fast and it continues...
I myself use my tren cut stacks like this.
I am on TRT so I stay using test cyp at 150mg wk
I add below
Test prop at 50mg a day or test ace will only use test prop in example to avoid confusion!!
Tren ace at 50mg a day and work up to 65-75mg a day
If I can up test prop to match great.
When sides start i lower test prop to 30-50mg a day and keep tren at 65-75mg a day. My best ratio is test prop 50mg to tren ace 75mg!!
Also I use Mast prop.
Mast prop i use at 75mg have used at 100-150mg a day any amount more than 75mg doesn't make anything worse only better!! But both high mast and tren bad for lipids!!
Proviron 50mg a day works as add on too with cut. 75mg better.
Adex 0.5mg 2-3x week is plenty for me with this stack!!
Nolva 10mg a day I do use or 20mg eod!!
Cabar 0.5mg 2x wk great addition!!!
Cialis 5mg-10mg a day BP control!!
Tren will or can cause flat not as full look with lower test adding Anavar at 50-75mg do trick or primo ace inject version 75mg a day!!! This helps flat look without adding more test and suffering sides!!
Sides I get from tren!! Heart burn acid indigestion, constipation!!! Using fiber more than enough help and magnesium oxide 400mg every night.
Prolactin using Cabar 0.5mg 2x wk help and or vit b6 look up proper form to lower prolactin!! 100mg everynight is what I use!!
Stress, tension, agitation sharp temper!! Keep test Lower and lower more if necessary and lower tren if necessary. Important to start tren at 40-50mg and go up slowly every couple days. 65mg-75mg a day plenty enough and lower than 50mg a day don't work well for myself!!
High BP I don't get it with test lower than tren. I also don't start tren unless bf% lower than 14%. High BP occur at first when close to 14% but usually lower than that. But as BF and water clear my bp ends up perfect. I also use Cialis10mg a day most use 5mg
Dehydration... tren will rid water from body and cause dehydration and yellow urine. Drink a ton of water!!
Other than that watch BP it affects some more than others!! Monitor Blood Pressure!! Keep diet clean as possible for good cut and to help with stomach issues tren can cause, cramping and gas with bile slow to empty is a side from tren. Anti acids may mask but don't help at all. Avoid them like plague!!!
Follow all above and u should be ok. Post in this thread and I will help u along way whatever u choose I can only tell u from my experience and hope it helps u!!
Final and most important!!!! I do not believe in roid rage!! I believe this term is for sides people who mis-use anabolic steroids. I believe they are fucking with hormones and have no clue what they doing are believing the media and getting placebo affect from their head!! Or they have mental health issues and blaming their behavior on Anabolics!!!! Be cool as ice becaysd those that know will poke at u and say oh look it's from the roids and any defense will just give them more fuel to poke!!! We that are Anabolic Steroid using community are different, we wanna be our best so let's be on best behavior at all times. Don't let any crap get into your head and ruin your experience!!! Patient, cool as ice, anger and emotions are part of life. Take a walk, go to gym, don't let anyone cause u to devastate yourself because a women will get jealous when tren is changing us. Just be sweet and tell her how much u want her and get more sex that way instead of letting it all be negative because people will poke so best not to let them know a thing. Just pinning more from shortesters can make them think we using too much or akot more and they can start using gear as leverage to manipulate and get their way in relationship!!! I told u upfront don't buy into that crap!!
Muscle mechanic!!!
