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Global Warming

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1970's: Global Cooling was encompassing the Planet, we were all going to freeze to death

1980's: Acid Rain was going to kill us all, hear anything about this one lately. I remember it because I did a paper on it in University.

1990's to 2014: Global Warming, We will sweat our nuts off and die.


Which one is it?

Are you believers or climate change deniers?:dizzy:
 
LOL! Don't get me started on this-the weather fuckers can't predict what the weather is going to be a week from now but they know what's going to happen 100 years from now?
 
The only thing I care about is that its nice out so I can ride my motorcycles and that girls don't have much on so there ass and tits r out
 
1970's: Global Cooling was encompassing the Planet, we were all going to freeze to death

1980's: Acid Rain was going to kill us all, hear anything about this one lately. I remember it because I did a paper on it in University.

1990's to 2014: Global Warming, We will sweat our nuts off and die.


Which one is it?

Are you believers or climate change deniers?:dizzy:
I think global warming is a scam and a hoax, about as believable as NSA's head spokesmen.
 
It's so hard to tell what is true and what is not, especially since the main people who got global warming out there were the ones who would benefit from the direction they were taking it. The other part is the Earth naturally goes through phases, so is it part of a regular phase? or is it intensified? WHo knows
 
It's so hard to tell what is true and what is not, especially since the main people who got global warming out there were the ones who would benefit from the direction they were taking it. The other part is the Earth naturally goes through phases, so is it part of a regular phase? or is it intensified? WHo knows
Exactly, and that's my trouble separating it from the ever growing bucket of bullshit coming from mainstream news. Not saying it's all shit...but when someone stands to profit, in a covert or halfway obvious way - it begs one to scratch their heads in great skepticism.
 
Seems like there was a major global cooling effect that really did happen. It wiped out the dinosaurs. Pretty sure that wasn't Man's fault. And if it weren't for global warming we'd still be in the Ice Age, right???

Most of what's in the mainstream news anymore is the equivalent of the grocery store tabloids. Just sensasonalized headlines for someone to act VERY concerned over for a few minutes so we can hurry up and get to the good stuff: the Hollywood wierdos.
 
Seems like there was a major global cooling effect that really did happen. It wiped out the dinosaurs. Pretty sure that wasn't Man's fault. And if it weren't for global warming we'd still be in the Ice Age, right???

Most of what's in the mainstream news anymore is the equivalent of the grocery store tabloids. Just sensasonalized headlines for someone to act VERY concerned over for a few minutes so we can hurry up and get to the good stuff: the Hollywood wierdos.


What the issue is isn't that climate does or doesn't change, it's the rate at which it is doing so, and determining if we are respobsible for an accelerated change.
 
TWC said if a hurricane takes the path of Sandy it's due to climate change-if it goes out to sea it's due to global warming
 
same idiots said that the hurricanes will get worse...been 9 years since a major one has hit-that's a record

must be due to climate change
 
Global Warming has a Marxist agenda. Period... Its an anti free market, anti capitalist movement.
 
Global Warming has a Marxist agenda. Period... Its an anti free market, anti capitalist movement.

the founder of the Weather Channel John Coleman took the Global Warming clowns to court saying that there is just as much evidence to disprove Global Warming as there is to prove it, the judge threw it out of court saying that people can believe what they want no different than religion

notice that since NBC bought out The Weather Channel it has become all about fear etc. they hype everything up-more hype more ratings
 
I can tell you guys one thing for sure.... there will be a 50% chance of rain tomorrow.
Did you guys see that Head of the EPA was a total fraud and completely uneducated in any of the Environmental sciences or anything related?? Yep, he was in charge of the EPA's policies for the last 19 years. He is now being investigated by the FBI and Federally prosecuted.

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All I know is HAARP has been around a very long time. There's some very big implications with that kind of tech
And being the eternal optimist it could have some benefits for this kind of thing.
On another note sea levels (shit that would actually be important) have remained marginally the same up and down for decades ain't shit changed
 
I know that no one really knows either way bc it's far too complicated of an algorithm for any one of us to follow, even if you know how to solve the problems of the world while you watch the news, we really don't know. That's like anyone of us being able to tell if the Jet in the sky is going 540 MPH or if its going 562 MPH, you just can't.
 
Speaking as someone with scientific training - part of the problem is vocabulary. "climate change" should have been used from the very beginning, because people get all in a flutter when you say that global warming has made it colder. You pump more energy into a heat-driven system, and lo and behold, the *extremes* get worse. Even some of the plateaus change. How much is our fault - good question. Are we contributing? Undoubtedly - we have antarctic ice core samples to prove it. It is enough to tip the balance? Maybe. Do we really want to do *nothing* about it because we don't believe it - even though the same changes that could reduce what effect we do have *also* benefit us by causing less air pollution? I hope not. This is definitely one of those cases where erring on the side of caution might not be a bad thing. *If*, and in my opinion, a *big* if, we are *not* effecting the environment, then the changes we make will only benefit us by reducing pollution. If we *are*, then maybe, just maybe, we can stave off a possible catastrophe, because realizing it after it starts is too late.

Also, for some historical context, the whole idea of climate change due to fossil fuel consumption is not *new* - one of the first proposals of the *possibility* that it could happen dates from *1911*. Though they were mainly worried about the effects of coal burning, the concept is the same.

On a completely separate note - I'm all for reduction in oil consumption - not *only* because of the climate change possibility, but *because* I think capitalism is still better than communism. Oil is the backbone of nearly *every* industry these days - and there is, by definition, a finite amount of it. You can *recycle* metals - even if we mine every gram of iron out of the crust - it's all still around, either as rust or metal and can be reused. Oil, well, good luck turning CO2 and H2O back into oil in anything under millions of years. If we burn all of the oil as fuel - well, where do we get our petrochemicals from that make everything from fertilizers, drugs, clothing, plastics, etc, etc. Coal? Sure, with a *huge* amount of effort - and it's a limited supply too. Not everyone who wants to reduce fossil fuel use is an anti-capitalist commie - some of us have other, more logical reasons. Why *wouldn't* we want to make the air cleaner? Why *wouldn't* we want to stop destroying huge tracts of land in an attempt to get at rarer and rarer sources of petroleum? That's not anti-capitalism, that's common sense! The posts above make the point "follow the money"...what money? Oh, right, a free market economy sells things....so companies that sell clean energy technology can make profits, give dividends, and employ people too....sounds good to me. If you're going to complain about creating a false need to make someone money - well, that's a time-honoured tradition. Wars driven not by self-defence, but because of desired resources, or political games. *ADVERTISING* which attempts to convince people they can't live without something they've never had before. Who *NEEDS* an Iphone6, especially if they already have an iphone? A "war on drugs" that is self-perpetuating, because it makes higher profit margins for those that are in the business, so they go for larger markets, so there are more people fighting it, which makes profits go up, and round and round we go. It's the capitalist way to make money off people - why are you suddenly against that?
 
The global cooling that happened years ago was caused by an asteroid that hit the earth. The ensuing calamity caused giant ash covering of the earth which blocked the sun for years. So they say anyway.
 
The finite amount of oil is debatable. First off oil and it being a fossil fuel is not fact but merely theory. There is information that oil is abiotic and formed from the mantle of the earth. So the earth produces it and there is not a limited supply. In fact more oil is created oil the time. As far as cheaper energy it is there with nuclear energy but they don't want to make that. Several countries use nuclear energy as their primary source and have no problems. It's about politics and control. The money is simply a means of control.
 
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