Has aney one just stayed on tren a trt style

[Vinvina]

I feel grate on it but feel like shit now im off maybe just 25 mg eod for ever

 

[Dean Destructo]

I think that could lead to problems but I am not an expert.

 

[mmajake]

With the cardiovascular effects and just how toxic it is, it seems like a bad idea. Been on the stuff for a week and I'm out of breath going up a flight of stairs. That can't be good for you lol

 

[Vinvina]

I just came of 12 weeks yes it kind of kills my wind but not bad i get the night sweats but i love that

 

[Dean Destructo]

Well they do it to cattle so it is feasible. There is livestock research available. I say if it did not cause liver failure or cancer in them then you are probably fine as well. Like I said, I am no endocrinologist.

I have heard of running low EQ and test for a cruise (150mg/100mg). I have heard of running low dose Deca plus TRT long term. I have never heard of a serious athlete attempting a cruise on tren of any kind. I am sure there are people that do and survive though. My question is, what do you think your quality of life will be like after 2 or 3 months on tren? Not to mention if you stay on it long term you will probably lose a lot of head hair and grow a back beard.

 

[Alex San]

The adverse effect tren has on cardio keeps me away from it , I am a farm worker , I even get sore or run out of breath on other gear doing physical stuff

 

[Masher59]

I've stayed on it for 16 weeks before at 100 ace eod.

 

[trekrider215]

You can stay on tren for a long fricken time actually. Like mentiomed above, the question is more so if your able to handle the resuced quality or life.
I stayed on for almost a year straight honestly. I wasnt really cycling at the time. I would just buy gear and when iwould run out ide buy more, or maybe theow something different in. I know i never went under 350mgs a week. I was off to a great start for the first few months. What happened is i eventually started to feel like shit but at the time i didnt realize it was actuwlly the tren causing it because it started to subtle and slowly got worse and worse. It took comin off of it to realize how shitty it was making me feel.

Ive learned a lot since then, if i use it again it will be 4 or 5 weeks max. Just leading up to a meet and thats it.

My doses werent really low like yours so who knows maybe youll be allright. I honestly have a few friends that stayed on a year straight and they seemed to feel a lot better than i did so idk. I would never recommend it though. My buddy likes to brag because he got bloodwork after being on it for a year straught and everythint was perfect so based off that alone he thinks its not toxic. I think what might not be toxic for someone could still be toxic for someone else though.

 

[Presser]

Well they do it to cattle so it is feasible. There is livestock research available. I say if it did not cause liver failure or cancer in them then you are probably fine as well. Like I said, I am no endocrinologist.

I have heard of running low EQ and test for a cruise (150mg/100mg). I have heard of running low dose Deca plus TRT long term. I have never heard of a serious athlete attempting a cruise on tren of any kind. I am sure there are people that do and survive though. My question is, what do you think your quality of life will be like after 2 or 3 months on tren? Not to mention if you stay on it long term you will probably lose a lot of head hair and grow a back beard.

Im pretty sure that cattle arent on the fina pellets long enough to know whether it would cause cancer or liver damage, as theyre put on the pellets prior to slaughter to beef them up correct? Thats what i thought anyhow

 

[Dean Destructo]

Im pretty sure that cattle arent on the fina pellets long enough to know whether it would cause cancer or liver damage, as theyre put on the pellets prior to slaughter to beef them up correct? Thats what i thought anyhow

They do but they are in a feed lot for a long time and naturally their lifespan is much shorter. So say they are in the the feed lot for a year getting pellet implants, that is a significant portion of their life. I just wish the tren stayed in the meat so I could eat tren steaks.

There are a few studies on cattle implants out there.

 

[Dean Destructo]

You can stay on tren for a long fricken time actually. Like mentiomed above, the question is more so if your able to handle the resuced quality or life.
I stayed on for almost a year straight honestly. I wasnt really cycling at the time. I would just buy gear and when iwould run out ide buy more, or maybe theow something different in. I know i never went under 350mgs a week. I was off to a great start for the first few months. What happened is i eventually started to feel like shit but at the time i didnt realize it was actuwlly the tren causing it because it started to subtle and slowly got worse and worse. It took comin off of it to realize how shitty it was making me feel.

Ive learned a lot since then, if i use it again it will be 4 or 5 weeks max. Just leading up to a meet and thats it.

My doses werent really low like yours so who knows maybe youll be allright. I honestly have a few friends that stayed on a year straight and they seemed to feel a lot better than i did so idk. I would never recommend it though. My buddy likes to brag because he got bloodwork after being on it for a year straught and everythint was perfect so based off that alone he thinks its not toxic. I think what might not be toxic for someone could still be toxic for someone else though.

That is a good post. I love real world advice.

I have to say it seems that way to me as well, the sides build up subtly over time. I think the biggest thing is the loss of sleep or frequently waking up. Sleep deprivation can do some seriously bad shit to your body. The thing is though , I know at least for me, is I am not going to stay at a low dose. When the positive effects wear off I always up the dose. There are so many other options to cruise besides tren.

 

[Presser]

They do but they are in a feed lot for a long time and naturally their lifespan is much shorter. So say they are in the the feed lot for a year getting pellet implants, that is a significant portion of their life. I just wish the tren stayed in the meat so I could eat tren steaks.

There are a few studies on cattle implants out there.

it does stay in their meat! I posted a Pubmed study showing they found trace amounts of the hormone present! Look it up here or elsewhere, its insane, pretty sure i posted 2 seperate studies on this

 

[Presser]

heres one i found we had here, and we have a couple more

http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...-hormone-residue-live-stock-you-eat-lmao.html

 

[Mountain_Man]

Been on tren for.a year now do cardio eod still get sweat's but well worth it

 

[Dean Destructo]

Been on tren for.a year now do cardio eod still get sweat's but well worth it

Do you feel the cardio effect is more "in the mind" and can be overcome versus something that actually slows you down. I found that when I did major cardio on tren, my power stamina was off the charts, It was just so damn painful.

 

[Mountain_Man]

Do you feel the cardio effect is more "in the mind" and can be overcome versus something that actually slows you down. I found that when I did major cardio on tren, my power stamina was off the charts, It was just so damn painful.

no its real you have to build up a resistance to it like getting in shape after a year or two off it took 4 mths of cardio and cross fit but i still lose breath easy at times