Help with test tren and either Clen or Albuterol

[Vanilachi]

I'm looking for peoples feedback on clen and albuterol. Does anyone have any experience with taking either one, or both, for a cutting cycle? I'm going to take either one with test e and tren a. 12 weeks of test e at 500mg a wk, tren a eod starting at wk 6 on. Im going to add clenbuterol but I've been hearing about albuterol and I'm interested. I've got my nolva and clomid for on/post cycle also.

Im going to be cutting calories and up-ing my cardio for a more effective cutting and fat loss effect. If anyone can help with thier experiences with Clen and Albuterol let me know! Thanks bros!

 

[NAIR]

Can't speak to albuterol much since it's been at least 10 years since I ran it, but clen is pretty solid. It boosts my metabolism quite a bit. My heart rate is elevated, I sweat much more, and I immediately drop a lot of water weight. I feel like it can be a little hard on the body, though, and I don't feel good about running it much longer than a few weeks at a time.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Let me help u out!!!
Run test prop 50 mg everyday
Run tren a 75 mg everyday
Run mast in there I run prop at 1gram week
Run proviron at 50-75mg a day
U can take nolva at 10mg a day

This will get u where u wanna be use aggression from tren
Use in this manor to starve off fat estro fed!!!

Tren a really gets me going and fast.
Clen may increase bp and I wouldn't recommend u combine those two unless u used both on its own without the other!

Clen never did me much but help me breath and clear airways and make hands shake! I have some now and don't want it.
And nobody else does either.
I am speaking of friends I know. Lol
Not me not HERE!

But I use stack above and it works like magic just push brother and use that tren aggression talk to them weights get sweating and on that stack I burn calories having sex cinstantly!!!

 

[Iron Game]

I have used both clen and albuterol. I don't get much if anything from albuterol. Clen works well. I recently did a cycle with Aqua-Burn, Cyto-Burn and Cardarine from TheSupplementOutlet.com. It was a great cutting cycle. I was also on a testosterone cruise.

My body quickly acclimates to Aqua-Burn so I cycled 10 days on the Aqua-Burn 14 days off. I ran the Cyto-Burn for a full 30 days and the Cardarine for 0 months. I don't really use the scale because I am more interested in recomp but I am happy with the results.

 

[Vanilachi]

Thanks for the reply.... I'd be a fucking mad man on that much tren! 100 eod makes me a nut! But I do see where your getting out of that. Fucking smashing lifts, weights, cardio, and anything else that comes in your way!! Couple questions tho... how long you run all that for?

 

[Vanilachi]

Thanks iron g.... what does all that shit run for? I love cardarine, I should run this w my diet. Well not a crazy diet, just cutting some different foods and calories and up-omg the cardio a lot.

 

[newwave]

For your pct i would add some hcg and aromasin. Do not run clomid whilst on hcg. OK to run nolva and aromasin while on hcg. you could run 1000 to 2000IU of HCG every 3 days between 10000 to 20000 IU. when your off the hcg add the clomid to push FSH and LH further. You could also add VIT D 5000iu daily for the whole pct cycle along with vit k2 100mcg daily.

 

[Vanilachi]

Nice! Ok thanks newwave... yes I totally forgot bout the hcg, why is it I shouldn't run clomid whilst on hcg? Just wondering... thanks bro

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Thanks for the reply.... I'd be a fucking mad man on that much tren! 100 eod makes me a nut! But I do see where your getting out of that. Fucking smashing lifts, weights, cardio, and anything else that comes in your way!! Couple questions tho... how long you run all that for?

I usually do a lean bulk for 14 week and then do the cut stack for 6 weeks.
I am amazed at what lower test dose for me with it! The first week is rough but once water and fat starts melting my bp gets better and I become more effient in every way.


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[Muscle mechanic]

Nice! Ok thanks newwave... yes I totally forgot bout the hcg, why is it I shouldn't run clomid whilst on hcg? Just wondering... thanks bro

Hcg only should be ran on cycke if needed.
It will.provide false signal that is suppressive during pct.
New studies prove it.
Hcg should serve as a small charge to battery while parking truck in shed so battery don't die.
In pct it will only prevent recovery due to neg feed back lope. U will think u recovered only to be used false signal suppression. Nolva and Clomid do not cause neg feed back like hcg.
Oh yeah TRT Dr can verify hgh dies all what hcg does but way better and doesn't cause testosterone suppression

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[Vanilachi]

Hcg only should be ran on cycke if needed. It will.provide false signal that is suppressive during pct.New studies prove it.Hcg should serve as a small charge to battery while parking truck in shed so battery don't die.In pct it will only prevent recovery due to neg feed back lope. U will think u recovered only to be used false signal suppression. Nolva and Clomid do not cause neg feed back like hcg. Oh yeah TRT Dr can verify hgh dies all what hcg does but way better and doesn't cause testosterone suppression Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk

@Muscle Mechanic, thanks for the hcg clomid explanation! I did know that about hcg I was thinking that if for some reason I started to take some clomid during the cycle and it fell on at the same time I needed to juicen up my balls, was there some reaction where hcg and clomid cancel each other out.And wow hgh is fucking great huh?!?! That shit is the fountain of youth! I do want to jump on that sometime in the next couple years. I'm 34 and for some reason I'm telling myself to hold off until my body naturally starts to really need it to start doing it. What do you think? Is it safe to start using now even tho I plan on using it for the next 25 years? Your feedback is appreciated muscle! Thanks bro

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I usually do a lean bulk for 14 week and then do the cut stack for 6 weeks. I am amazed at what lower test dose for me with it! The first week is rough but once water and fat starts melting my bp gets better and I become more effient in every way.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk

@Muscle Mechanic, what do you mean "your amazed at what lower test dose does for you?"... so do you usually run a lean bulk cycle like test e tren e type of shit then you roll right into that cut stack? Or you run a pct then jump back on the stack after that to shred up your last cycle gains? That's a badass 6 months you got going there!! Thanks for your help bro I'm still fairly young in the sauce game but I do know all the common coumpounds, stacks ingredients and supplements type of shit but there's definitely still a ton of shit I need to learn to help promote a safer stronger cycle... and fucking lifestyle

 

[Muscle mechanic]

@Muscle Mechanic, thanks for the hcg clomid explanation! I did know that about hcg I was thinking that if for some reason I started to take some clomid during the cycle and it fell on at the same time I needed to juicen up my balls, was there some reaction where hcg and clomid cancel each other out.And wow hgh is fucking great huh?!?! That shit is the fountain of youth! I do want to jump on that sometime in the next couple years. I'm 34 and for some reason I'm telling myself to hold off until my body naturally starts to really need it to start doing it. What do you think? Is it safe to start using now even tho I plan on using it for the next 25 years? Your feedback is appreciated muscle! Thanks bro

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@Muscle Mechanic, what do you mean "your amazed at what lower test dose does for you?"... so do you usually run a lean bulk cycle like test e tren e type of shit then you roll right into that cut stack? Or you run a pct then jump back on the stack after that to shred up your last cycle gains? That's a badass 6 months you got going there!! Thanks for your help bro I'm still fairly young in the sauce game but I do know all the common coumpounds, stacks ingredients and supplements type of shit but there's definitely still a ton of shit I need to learn to help promote a safer stronger cycle... and fucking lifestyle

It's with the tren the low test.
It gives me leaning and doesn't mess with anxiety.
I always ran high test lower tren
Tren especially enathate became intolerable after around 38, I am 42.
I tried lower test and an sold!!!

Lean bulk just I mean that I try not to get too swole. I add masterone and proviron and trying for slower hander muscle instead of bulk.
I just became respectable to fat gain last few years too but kids got me on their junk!! Lol!

On your hcg I will not argue with anyone but there is a good article on new research here at MC that verifies it's use only for cycle and only 250iu 2x week suffient.
I have changed my views after years of the other view!

I am 42 just using hgh now and injuries just were not healing.
I still trying to dial in food and diet a good friend made me one I will have to check my email and follow it. I haven't been eating near enough!!!

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[newwave]

Nice! Ok thanks newwave... yes I totally forgot bout the hcg, why is it I shouldn't run clomid whilst on hcg? Just wondering... thanks bro

Just read this.

My understanding is that using clomid whilst on hcg wont really benefit increasing much of the lh it will push fsh a little thats about it.
Hence the reason of not using it whilst on hcg but add it once you drop the hcg.

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It's with the tren the low test.

On your hcg I will not argue with anyone but there is a good article on new research here at MC that verifies it's use only for cycle and only 250iu 2x week suffient.
I have changed my views after years of the other view!

@Muscle Mechanic

Any links or references regarding this new studies please?

What would a good pct protocol be like? Nolva clomid and aromasin or something along these lines?