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akn

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Q: “I’d like to do a non-testosterone cycle, both to shake things up and because it seems like I always get acne on a cycle and am hoping that omitting testosterone might fix that. What are some of the main ways I could do that?”

A: It’s entirely possible to get excellent results with anabolic steroid cycles which use no testosterone at all: in fact, results can be every bit as good without testosterone as with.

That is, provided that the cycle is constructed in a correct way. While there really is no way to get bad anabolic results from a cycle which includes large amounts of testosterone, with incorrect combination of synthetics it’s entirely possible to get rather lacking results even from large doses.

The reason for this is that there isn’t just one way that anabolic steroids work. If that were the case, then combinations would not matter. But as things actually are, individual synthetics generally do not “cover all the bases” and we must combine them to get best results.

As a simplified practical approach without getting into pharmacology, combining synthetic anabolic steroids is somewhat like ordering at some Chinese restaurants. Combine from Column A and Column B; don’t order from just one or the other.

In what I’ve called Class 1 anabolic steroids, as the most popular choices we have Primobolan, Masteron, trenbolone, nandrolone, boldenone, and oxandrolone. And in what I’ve called Class 2 anabolic steroids, as popular choices we have Dianabol, Anadrol, and Winstrol.

If testosterone is being used in substantial doses in a cycle, then we can add either a Class 1, a Class 2, or both, and get good results. Exactly how we should do it will depend on the amount of testosterone and the goals, but there’s considerable flexibility. However, without testosterone we really should order from both columns.

The choice of Class 1 compound will depend on availability and concerns/preferences regarding side effects. One person might prefer Masteron for having rather minimal side effects; another might prefer trenbolone for the “feel” and enhanced lifting performance from CNS activation. Still another might prefer a blend of two or more of these injectables.

Dianabol is the more popular Class II choice, but Anadrol can work very well as an alternate.

It’s important to note that Dianabol aromatizes, while Anadrol does not. This aromatization can actually be an advantage where the injectable steroid is non-aromatizing, as we don’t want estrogen levels to drop too low, as will occur with a totally non-aromatizing steroid stack. However, Dianabol usage can sometimes require the use of an anti-aromatase.

As to whether you will have less or no acne when going to such a cycle, this is the case in some instances, but not others. It’s worth a try.
 
Trest is a great alternative to Test. Not sure about the acne; neither give me acne. Everybodies is a little different in this aspect.
 
most popular steroid that i know people have run by itself without testosterone or other compounds is Deca, a knew a lot of guys back in the day who would just run deca by itself, and also dianabol, winny, then i think equipoise i knew of that guys used these compounds by themselves,

i have never run anything by itself other than testosterone
 
There are problems with all the anabolics. Masteron is considered a weak steroid compared to nandrolone. Both nandrolone and boldenone cause a rapid buildup of RBC, hemoglobin and hematocrit in the blood. Anadrol causes liver tumors and kidney damage as does trenbolone. A recent study published in Mus. Dev. mag. showed trenbolone caused brain damage in lab rats. Leading to an early onset of alzheimer's disease. Oxandrolone(anavar) and dianabol cause a rapid buildup of plaque in your coronary arteries and arteries in the brain. There was a study published in Mus. Dev. mag. that showed just an 8 week cycle of 30 mg. a day of oxandrolone increased the bad cholesterol LDL by a staggering 41%. The good cholesterol HDL was dramaticly reduced.
There was a book written by a doctor in the late 80's who described the effectiveness of anabolic steroids he prescribed to his patients. He said he saw no anabolic effect from winstrol. So that leaves primobolin as the "safest" anabolic to use. And it is made by a major pharma, Bayer. And there is the problem that the rest are made by UGL's and you don't know if there is a toxin in them that could cause later problems.
You can still get testosterone from a major pharma, like sustanon and testoviron made by Bayer.
 
So is most of the test, sus and primo that is available from reputable sources coming from major pharma? Any info on this?
 
So is most of the test, sus and primo that is available from reputable sources coming from major pharma? Any info on this?

Just depends on where you are getting it from, but for the most part it is made "in house" by the UGL (Underground Lab).

That's not always a bad thing though.
Mass Builder's Test Prop seems to be Very good, as are their other products I'm sure.

I'll be starting up again within a few weeks, and it will include MB's Prop and Tren Ace along with PSL's Dbol.
It's looking like it's gonna be a good one!


Anyway, from what I've read, it's always good to at least have a TRT dose of Test or Trest no matter what (Mainly to maintain libido).
 
All coming from major (ugl) pharma who are in business for long enough would always give good quality stuff I.e alpha pharma being one of them , the trick is to get it from a legit source and stick on it
 
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