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I honestly think OBAMA just likes to hear himself talk

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Is it me or does OBAMA give a speech every other fucking day, I never heard from past presidents as much as I hear this guy talking!

Rose Garden ceremony after Rose Garden Ceremony, and if it isn't him patting himself on the back, he is lecturing us the american people about race relations lmao

For fucks sake, this guy doesn't stop!
 
Like how hw adornded the WH in rainbow colors?? This guy cant go back to Kenya fast enough....and yes seems every day hes shooting his pie hole off about what he did, blah blah blah....God help us all in Hilary gets in next yr. BO may as well just stay put if that happens
 
yeah that rainbow on the white house was a slap in the face to half the country! It was uncalled for and he did it on purpose as a big fuck you! He never would have done something like that in his first term knowing he had to get re-elected, it was just soo fucked up!

And I'm all for gay people being able to marry, i keep coming back to the fact that what if my son or daughter wind up being gay, I would love them just the same and i would want them to be happy and have all the same liberties as everyone else, so I'm ok with the same sex marriage shit, but i still think lighting up the white house in rainbow colors was way out of line!
 
Gay marriage off my radar screen, its a non-issue for me. I dont understand it, nor do I want to, nor do I want to take the time to understand it. If has no effect on me what so ever....now, if invited, would I attend a gay wedding??? Hope I'm never put in that position.

Sure let them get hitched but would the Rev say "Now will the groom kiss the groom?" :disgust:
 
no way is Hillary going to get it, 2 terms for Democrats then it's time to vote Republican-look at the history of elections it's always been that way
 
no way is Hillary going to get it, 2 terms for Democrats then it's time to vote Republican-look at the history of elections it's always been that way
I was talking to someone about this recently, how true. I think thats why you see such a crowded GOP field for this next election. But I gotta tell you Hilary still kinda scares me despite that fact, seems this is a changed world full of entitlement people who are looking for a hand out. And I'm sure she would be glad to fill thier hands
 
I was talking to someone about this recently, how true. I think thats why you see such a crowded GOP field for this next election. But I gotta tell you Hilary still kinda scares me despite that fact, seems this is a changed world full of entitlement people who are looking for a hand out. And I'm sure she would be glad to fill thier hands

that's a good point and she would be the first woman president so every woman out there is going to vote for her
 
yeah that rainbow on the white house was a slap in the face to half the country! It was uncalled for and he did it on purpose as a big fuck you! He never would have done something like that in his first term knowing he had to get re-elected, it was just soo fucked up!

And I'm all for gay people being able to marry, i keep coming back to the fact that what if my son or daughter wind up being gay, I would love them just the same and i would want them to be happy and have all the same liberties as everyone else, so I'm ok with the same sex marriage shit, but i still think lighting up the white house in rainbow colors was way out of line!

I have to agree with that. The bigger issue with what happened is detailed in Scalia's dissent, a Must Read IMO:



12 Must-Read Quotes From Scalia’s Blistering Same-Sex Marriage Dissent


Jun. 26, 2015 12:45pm Chris Field


Anyone who thought Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s dissent in Thursday’s Obamacare — which Scalia now calls “SCOTUScare” — ruling was intense should read his dissent in Friday’s 5-4 ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states. In fact, Fox News’ Andrew Napolitano said that Scalia’s Obamacare dissent “looks like a Christmas card” compared to his rebuke of Justice Anthony Kennedy’s majority opinion.


Scalia didn’t hold back in his criticisms of the Supreme Court and the “wisdom” of five robed members of the federal government.


We pulled out a dozen of the best quotes from his blistering disagreement with the SCOTUS majority (emphasis added):


No. 1: SCOTUS Is a ‘Threat’


“I write separately to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy.”


No. 2: Our New Rulers


t is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create ‘liberties’ that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.”


No. 3: Naked Claim to Power


“This is a naked judicial claim to legislative—indeed, super-legislative—power; a claim fundamentally at odds with our system of government. Except as limited by a constitutional prohibition agreed to by the People, the States are free to adopt whatever laws they like, even those that offend the esteemed Justices’ ‘reasoned judgment.’ A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers does not deserve to be called a democracy.”


No. 4: ‘Pretentious’ and ‘Egotistic’


“The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. It is one thing for separate concurring or dissenting opinions to contain extravagances, even silly extravagances, of thought and expression; it is something else for the official opinion of the Court to do so.”


No. 5: Five Justices Think They Know All


“The five Justices who compose today’s majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification and Massachusetts’ permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a ‘fundamental right’ overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds—minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly—could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their ‘reasoned judgment.’ These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution.”


No. 6: Court’s Reputation Diminished


“The stuff contained in today’s opinion has to diminish this Court’s reputation for clear thinking and sober analysis.”


No. 7: ‘Profoundly Incoherent’


“[T]he opinion’s showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent. ‘The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality.’ (Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.)


“Rights, we are told, can ‘rise . . . from a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives define a liberty that remains urgent in our own era.’ (Huh? How can a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives [whatever that means] define [whatever that means] an urgent liberty [never mind], give birth to a right?)


“And we are told that, ‘n any particular case,’ either the Equal Protection or Due Process Clause ‘may be thought to capture the essence of [a] right in a more accurate and comprehensive way,’ than the other, ‘even as the two Clauses may converge in the identification and definition of the right.’ (What say? What possible ‘essence’ does substantive due process ‘capture’ in an ‘accurate and comprehensive way’? It stands for nothing whatever, except those freedoms and entitlements that this Court really likes. And the Equal Protection Clause, as employed today, identifies nothing except a difference in treatment that this Court really dislikes. Hardly a distillation of essence. If the opinion is correct that the two clauses ‘converge in the identification and definition of [a] right,’ that is only because the majority’s likes and dislikes are predictably compatible.)”


No. 8: Supreme Court ‘Ends’ Public Debate


“When the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in 1868, every State limited marriage to one man and one woman, and no one doubted the constitutionality of doing so. … Since there is no doubt whatever that the People never decided to prohibit the limitation of marriage to opposite-sex couples, the public debate over same-sex marriage must be allowed to continue.


“But the Court ends this debate, in an opinion lacking even a thin veneer of law.”


No. 9: A ‘Judge-Empowering’ Decision


“Buried beneath the mummeries and straining-to-be-memorable passages of the opinion is a candid and startling assertion: No matter what it was the People ratified, the Fourteenth Amendment protects those rights that the Judiciary, in its ‘reasoned judgment,’ thinks the Fourteenth Amendment ought to protect. That is so because ‘[t]he generations that wrote and ratified the Bill of Rights and the Fourteenth Amendment did not presume to know the extent of freedom in all of its dimensions . . . . ‘ One would think that sentence would continue: ‘. . . and therefore they provided for a means by which the People could amend the Constitution,’ or perhaps ‘. . . and therefore they left the creation of additional liberties, such as the freedom to marry someone of the same sex, to the People, through the never-ending process of legislation.’ But no. What logically follows, in the majority’s judge-empowering estimation, is: ‘and so they entrusted to future generations a charter protecting the right of all persons to enjoy liberty as we learn its meaning.’ The ‘we,’ needless to say, is the nine of us.”


No. 10: Violating Principles


“[T]o allow the policy question of same-sex marriage to be considered and resolved by a select, patrician, highly unrepresentative panel of nine is to violate a principle even more fundamental than no taxation without representation: no social transformation without representation.”


No. 11: Overthrowing the Government


“[W]hat really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch.”


No. 12: ‘One Step Closer …’


“With each decision of ours that takes from the People a question properly left to them—with each decision that is unabashedly based not on law, but on the ‘reasoned judgment’ of a bare majority of this Court—we move one step closer to being reminded of our impotence.”
 
Ya know past all the trash talk, I really think at the end of the day I would like to think I would judge people on the positive effect they have on the world, thier sexuality be damned. Obviuosly respecting the differences between homo and heter sexuality is a must. If a gay man treats me well, doesn't hit on me and seems like a decent and honorable man, I have no problem with what happens behind closed doors as long as I dont have to look at it
 
Areal stand up President would not agree with national gay married or Jaklyn Jenner's bullshit! All I can say is read the book of Revelations, most people just want to ignore what is right and what is wrong so why not just go along with it. WTF!
 
I have to agree with that. The bigger issue with what happened is detailed in Scalia's dissent, a Must Read IMO:



12 Must-Read Quotes From Scalia’s Blistering Same-Sex Marriage Dissent


Jun. 26, 2015 12:45pm Chris Field


Anyone who thought Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s dissent in Thursday’s Obamacare — which Scalia now calls “SCOTUScare” — ruling was intense should read his dissent in Friday’s 5-4 ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states. In fact, Fox News’ Andrew Napolitano said that Scalia’s Obamacare dissent “looks like a Christmas card” compared to his rebuke of Justice Anthony Kennedy’s majority opinion.


Scalia didn’t hold back in his criticisms of the Supreme Court and the “wisdom” of five robed members of the federal government.


We pulled out a dozen of the best quotes from his blistering disagreement with the SCOTUS majority (emphasis added):


No. 1: SCOTUS Is a ‘Threat’


“I write separately to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy.”


No. 2: Our New Rulers


t is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create ‘liberties’ that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.”


No. 3: Naked Claim to Power


“This is a naked judicial claim to legislative—indeed, super-legislative—power; a claim fundamentally at odds with our system of government. Except as limited by a constitutional prohibition agreed to by the People, the States are free to adopt whatever laws they like, even those that offend the esteemed Justices’ ‘reasoned judgment.’ A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers does not deserve to be called a democracy.”


No. 4: ‘Pretentious’ and ‘Egotistic’


“The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. It is one thing for separate concurring or dissenting opinions to contain extravagances, even silly extravagances, of thought and expression; it is something else for the official opinion of the Court to do so.”


No. 5: Five Justices Think They Know All


“The five Justices who compose today’s majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification and Massachusetts’ permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a ‘fundamental right’ overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds—minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly—could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their ‘reasoned judgment.’ These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution.”


No. 6: Court’s Reputation Diminished


“The stuff contained in today’s opinion has to diminish this Court’s reputation for clear thinking and sober analysis.”


No. 7: ‘Profoundly Incoherent’


“[T]he opinion’s showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent. ‘The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality.’ (Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.)


“Rights, we are told, can ‘rise . . . from a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives define a liberty that remains urgent in our own era.’ (Huh? How can a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives [whatever that means] define [whatever that means] an urgent liberty [never mind], give birth to a right?)


“And we are told that, ‘n any particular case,’ either the Equal Protection or Due Process Clause ‘may be thought to capture the essence of [a] right in a more accurate and comprehensive way,’ than the other, ‘even as the two Clauses may converge in the identification and definition of the right.’ (What say? What possible ‘essence’ does substantive due process ‘capture’ in an ‘accurate and comprehensive way’? It stands for nothing whatever, except those freedoms and entitlements that this Court really likes. And the Equal Protection Clause, as employed today, identifies nothing except a difference in treatment that this Court really dislikes. Hardly a distillation of essence. If the opinion is correct that the two clauses ‘converge in the identification and definition of [a] right,’ that is only because the majority’s likes and dislikes are predictably compatible.)”


No. 8: Supreme Court ‘Ends’ Public Debate


“When the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in 1868, every State limited marriage to one man and one woman, and no one doubted the constitutionality of doing so. … Since there is no doubt whatever that the People never decided to prohibit the limitation of marriage to opposite-sex couples, the public debate over same-sex marriage must be allowed to continue.


“But the Court ends this debate, in an opinion lacking even a thin veneer of law.”


No. 9: A ‘Judge-Empowering’ Decision


“Buried beneath the mummeries and straining-to-be-memorable passages of the opinion is a candid and startling assertion: No matter what it was the People ratified, the Fourteenth Amendment protects those rights that the Judiciary, in its ‘reasoned judgment,’ thinks the Fourteenth Amendment ought to protect. That is so because ‘[t]he generations that wrote and ratified the Bill of Rights and the Fourteenth Amendment did not presume to know the extent of freedom in all of its dimensions . . . . ‘ One would think that sentence would continue: ‘. . . and therefore they provided for a means by which the People could amend the Constitution,’ or perhaps ‘. . . and therefore they left the creation of additional liberties, such as the freedom to marry someone of the same sex, to the People, through the never-ending process of legislation.’ But no. What logically follows, in the majority’s judge-empowering estimation, is: ‘and so they entrusted to future generations a charter protecting the right of all persons to enjoy liberty as we learn its meaning.’ The ‘we,’ needless to say, is the nine of us.”


No. 10: Violating Principles


“[T]o allow the policy question of same-sex marriage to be considered and resolved by a select, patrician, highly unrepresentative panel of nine is to violate a principle even more fundamental than no taxation without representation: no social transformation without representation.”


No. 11: Overthrowing the Government


“[W]hat really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch.”


No. 12: ‘One Step Closer …’


“With each decision of ours that takes from the People a question properly left to them—with each decision that is unabashedly based not on law, but on the ‘reasoned judgment’ of a bare majority of this Court—we move one step closer to being reminded of our impotence.”


Bro, i read his dissent and he fucking nailed it! And they also blew it on Obama care and giving New meaning to the word STATES lmao i mean come on man!

The supreme court has officially taken a political side and its sad
 
It pisses me off that the SCOTUS ruled you can be taxed for NOT buying something. That is ripe for abuse. If the government wants to force you to buy a new car or be taxed, they now can do it.
 
Can't trust the Republicans or Democrats anymore. The fast tracking of the TPP bill by Obama is going to effective all of us(well except for the 1%) much more negatively then gay marriage.
 
It pisses me off that the SCOTUS ruled you can be taxed for NOT buying something. That is ripe for abuse. If the government wants to force you to buy a new car or be taxed, they now can do it.
That's what Obama care is. Either buy insurance or you will be fined.

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