I think I did it!

[Civboy]

My Whatman's finally came in yesterday, and after everyone went to sleep in my house I went to work. I think I successfully converted 10g of prop into 100ml @ 100mg/ml. Actually it was a little less than 10g. Some of the powder stuck to the vial it was stored in and some stuck to the ziplock bag that the rest of the powder was in. My scale read it as 9.6g.

This was my first conversion and total time for this cnversion was about 2.5 hours. Everything went smoothly with no mistakes or mishaps. Used 10g Prop, 3.5%BA, 12%BB, and 77ml of USP Grapseed oil. This recipe worked like a charm. So far it is still holding and it has a very light golden yellowish color. I split it into two 50ml vials. It looks nice and thin and it looks like it should inject quite smoothly.

One thing I noticed this morning was that when I swirl the two vials around, one stays clear while the other has swirls in it. Does this mean I did something wrong? Also, what will it look like if it crashes? And what can I do about it if it does crash?

Many thanks to Strider and Flexmaster for all your help. I'll try and post some pics too when I get a chance.

 

[Lord Odin]

Great Job!!!

Congratulations Iron Bro...Flexmaster and Strider know their stuff. I remember when I first converted Fina pellets...I was not as fortunate as you. Ha!ha! I will leave it at that. LOL

Great job though...Maybe you could even post the process that you used so that some of the younger members could read it and learn from you....That would be great.

Stay True to the Iron!!!

Again, Thanks for posting and I look forward to reading your next one.

 

[Flexmaster]

nice job civboy! like HG said, the swirls are nothing to worry about, and at that concentration of ba/bb i seriously doubt it will crash.lol the only thing i would say other than what HG said is that if something of mine crashes i'll usually heat it again for about 15 min, that usually works for me unless i'm really trying to stretch the mg/ml ratio.

 

[Civboy]

Thanks guys! I finally popped my cherry...LOL! The whole experience was rather fun. The whole time I was a bit nervous tho, because I was afraid someone would wake up and ask what the heck I was doing. If that happened, I don't think any excuse in the world could save me.

HG and Flexmaster-

Thanks for the tips how to fix it if it crashes. Hopefully it won't come to that. By the way, how long will my Prop stay potent for now that I have converted it all? I use rather conservative doses so this will definitely last me along time.

Lord Odin-

Thanks bro and you're right, Strider and Flex do know their shit. Actually, everyone here is helpful and knowledgeable. BTW, if you've got the time I'd like to hear about you Fina story and I'm sure everyone else would too. Afterall, sharing is caring...LOL! As for the process I used:

1. I am a neat freak and very paranoid about abcesses and infections so a clean and spacious work area is a must for me.

2. Next thing was I put my sterile 100ml vial, with a home made paper funnel added, onto my scale and tared the weight. Then I added my powder to the vial to see how much powder I actually had.

3. Next I added all my 3.5ml BA and 12ml BB as according to the recipe. (BTW: Recipe courtesy of Flexmaster)

4. Then I added 77ml of USP Grapeseed Oil to the vial.

5. Next I put the stopper on the vial, shook it up by hand for a few seconds, and put the vial into a pot of hot water that I had been boiling. I let the vial sit until all the ingredients dissolved.

6. Next I filtered my mixture through a Whatman Filter into two 50ml vials. I used a 10ml syringe for this part. I also wiped down the stopper of each vial with an alcohol wipe before poking a 18g needle into each of the two 50ml vials to help vent them while I was filtering.

7. After I filtered all the gear, I took 2ml of clean oil I saved in a seperate syringe and used that to purge the filter of the rest of the prop.

8. And finally I cleaned up my work station and did my best to leave no trace of what I had done.

Now I have two 50ml vials of Prop @ 100mg/ml. Both are evenly filled, exactly 50mls each, and both vials have a nice light golden yellowish color. All thats left to do is to try it out and report on the potentcy and pain factor.

 

[Lord Odin]

Great post Civboy!!! Fucking Excellent!!! As far as my experience, Ha!Ha! I tried to make the concetration too high mg/ml and I was so scared of infection that I boiled the shit until it was almost black!!! ha!Ha! That was crazy!@!!LOL!! I was actually about to still inject until one of my bro...was like WTF!!!! It's not suppose to be black like that!!!! ha!Ha!

It was quite embarassing!! But needless to say, he helped me with the next batch and it came out alright...

Let us know how everything goes with your cycle and good luck Iron Brother...

The Iron is a Bond that will not Break!!

 

[Civboy]

Lord Odin-

Damn bro...ROFTL!!! That is seriously wicked bro! I can't believe that shit. It's good that you shared that tho...you have probably saved some newbie from making the same mistake.

HG-

Thanks for the tip. I figured I'd have to reheat or else the BB might not mix. And trust me, when I say I am conservative with my dosages, I mean it. If I used all that Prop by Xmas, my nuts would be fried extra crispy and I'd have set of huge boobies!...LOL I am super gyno prone. Found that out on my last cycle.

 

[Civboy]

BTW-This is a little off topic, but I was wondering if I could get some opinions on Aromatase Inhibitors for my next cycle from the more knowledgable bros here.

I got gyno from my last cycle of Test E/Dbol. I was using .5mg LDex eod along with 20mg nolva ed and I still got gyno. My guess is, was that the Dbol put me over the top. Anyhow now that I know I got this problem I won't be using DBOL anymore period.

I am gonna use prop this time. It will be my first time using Prop. Not sure what dosages yet. I will probably start small and work my way up each week. The reason I chose prop this time was partly price and also because the short ester would make it easier to control if I did get gyno again. I was thinking about switching to Liquid Exemestane this time tho instead of using Ldex again.

Would this be a more effective Aromatase inhibitor than than L-dex? Also can anybody tell me what the differences are between the two if you have used both before?

 

[Flexmaster]

that's the reason i recommend a test only first cycle. to evaluate the way you react to every chemical, have you ever used test e before you're last cycle? if not it was definately your dbol like you said. i've got a friend that gets gyno from me taking it he's so sensitive.lol i haven't used Ldex or exemestane before so i've got nothing for ya there, sorry buddy.

 

[Lord Odin]

Arimedex or liquidex, both are dam good. Can't go wrong either way.

The Iron is the Answer.

 

[Civboy]

Thanks for the replies. Maybe I'll give L-Dex another shot with a test prop cycle.

 

[Civboy]

Okay, I just took my first shot of Prop about 5 minutes ago. Didn't sting going in, but my ass does feel a little sore now. I just hope it doesn't get bad in a few days. In case anyone is wonderinng it was 3.5%BA and 12%BB. And I used a 25g pin to draw and shoot. It loaded a little slow but all in all it was smooth going in and the oil was definitely very thin.

 

[Flexmaster]

wow, you drew with a 25g, lol, that's tiny. did you cut it with anything? it'll probably be a little sore tomorrow, but just warmup the muscle with a few light sets to get the blood flowing and lossen all up. you should be totally fine though.

for me, when i use prop i notice a ton less water retention, a little acne (i don't seem to break out with other tests), and slow steady gains.

 

[Civboy]

Hey Flexmaster, yeah I drew and shot with a 25g pin. Loads and shoots real smooth. Loading with a 25g was a lil slow. As for injecting, I wanted to try what 25g feels like this time. I think I will stick with 25s from now on. Can't feel anything going in or out with this size. What did you mean by "did you cut it with anything?" I made the prop with the recipe you gave me. Good recipe by the way.

As for pain, there has been none so far. I can feel it a bit more now in my ass, but its not bad. Same as the other times I injected test e. I am reluctant to find out what it will feel like over the next few days tho as I have heard stories about pain from Prop. I think I will try stretching if the soreness gets out of hand. That usually helped me before.

So when can I expect to feel the Prop kicking in? If everything goes well and if I don't see too many sides I might increase the Prop to 150mg midway. Also this is what my cycle looks like:

Week 1-10: 100mg Prop eod
Week 1-10: 10-20mg Nolva ed
Week 1-10: 12.5mg Exemestane eod

 

[Flexmaster]

i have felt it kicking in at about 10 days for me.

what i meant by did you cut it with anything was are you running anything else besides test prop in your cycle? for me, i'm doing prop and eq, so i have eq with every prop shot. it cuts down the mg/ml of the prop.

i wouldn't let the rumors of prop's pain get to you, they are mostly untrue. you'll feel the site you injected tomorrow, but it shouldn't hurt per se'.

25g's are nice huh. i like them a lot better than the 18's i used for my first 3 injections ever.lol

 

[Civboy]

I wish I had some EQ to run with this cycle bro, but unfortunately there were complications and I didn't want to wait any longer cuz the more I stared at my Prop the more I wanted to use it...LOL! I hope you're right about the Prop pain. I don't think it will be that bad though, but for now it's anyone's guess. As for you and the 18's you used, all I can say is you are a Masochist bro! I have never even once thought about using an 18g pin. I hate needles to begin with and I am absolutley paranoid about abcesses, accidently main-lining, and hitting a nerve.

 

[Flexmaster]

I wish I had some EQ to run with this cycle bro, but unfortunately there were complications and I didn't want to wait any longer cuz the more I stared at my Prop the more I wanted to use it...LOL! I hope you're right about the Prop pain. I don't think it will be that bad though, but for now it's anyone's guess. As for you and the 18's you used, all I can say is you are a Masochist bro! I have never even once thought about using an 18g pin. I hate needles to begin with and I am absolutley paranoid about abcesses, accidently main-lining, and hitting a nerve.

yeah, i know how it can just call to you. it's just sitting there looking all innocent and eventually you're powerless.lol

you should have seen me....i'm standing in the bathroom in front of the mirror listening to Metallica to try and psyche myself up and jab myself in the ass with stick huge harpoon.

let me know how you feel in the next few days.

 

[Civboy]

Ok, today is day 3 and I just harpooned my other ass cheek. Feels like it went a little too smoothly for some reason. The first cheek I injected has no soreness or pain today. So basically I am feeling no pain. Sometimes I worry tho when things seem too good to be true...LOL!

Yesterday I was very sluggish though and actually sweat a lot all day. Appetite suffered a little too but I forced myself to eat. I was so tired I took nap and when I woke up from that I still felt tired and sweaty. I was wondering if those are syptoms of the "Test Flu" that some people get?

 

[CzarShel]

Sounds like you might have some mild Test Flu symtoms, trust me if you up the test dose real fast you will get sick as hell for like 24 hours and youll definately know why the say "Test Flu" I been there 3 times last year, stupid me.

 

[Civboy]

I felt fine for most of today. All the symptoms went away. But the cheek I injected today actually is sore. I think maybe I hit close to a nerve. Anyhow, I am starting to feel some mild effects from prop. My work out was more intense today and I was able to squeeze out some extra reps, also my stamina is better too. I think I will stick with prop from now on. This is good stuff and I can't wait til it kicks in fully.

 

[Flexmaster]

wow, i just read my last post..."jab myself in the ass with STICK huge harpoon"...man i'm retarded.lol

anyway, nice work civboy, your are turning into quite the kitchen chemist bro.