i take GHRH + GHRP-2 3 times/day, 2ui Genotropin in the morning AM 30 min after my first dosis of the combo GHRH+GHRP-2 and IGF1 pre-wo and it really works well. I don't know how it will work without the GH. I can tell you that i got increase my weight without loosing looking of my abs, and actually i am taking enough carbs, 100gr oats breakfast and 3 more meals with 100gr before cook of rice. I really recommend that combo. Yeah is all together (GHRP+GHRH, GH, IGF1) but i love it, hehehehe