Igf dose

[mcgaret]

what is the doseage for you guys on applying the IGF.
I started w/20&20 but am going to 30&30. I know that is
on the light side. Like I said in other posts I have noticed
small improvement at the 20&20 but wondering what others
experience is. Im Usually 5 days on 2 days off.

 

[NAIR]

I'm running 50mcgs On Days only, 1x per day, with good results....haven't been able to try 20 x 2, or 30 x 2....

Alot of bodybuilders I have talked to believe that 50mcgs+ is responsible for internal organ growth, more so than muscular development and they keep their doses below or just at that dose...

I would think that to some degree that is relevant, since alot of GH users, and high dosage IGF users have historically shown distended bellies on stage...Not sure that you could prove a dose since there are so many variables to determine as such, but regardless I personally am not going to go higher.

amen to that

 

[Presser]

i swear my feet grew,lol, i know a bit off topic but im telling ya i had to jump half a size in smeakers,lol

 

[mikeswift]

I've told this story over and over but I swear the roots of my teeth grew while on, I was using in the 100-120mcg range for a short time to try and see what the results would be. My dentist who is a college roommate of my wife insisted that there was something weird because the roots of my teeth were larger than the prior years exrays. I convinced my wife that it was because they took the x-rays from closer in this time but I know our dentist knew something was going on... lol

 

[saudades]

I've got one too: I had been using in the same range as mikeswift, and I had a few people tell me that they thought I seemed a little taller.

 

[lovinit]

I'm running 50mcgs On Days only, 1x per day, with good results....haven't been able to try 20 x 2, or 30 x 2....

Alot of bodybuilders I have talked to believe that 50mcgs+ is responsible for internal organ growth, more so than muscular development and they keep their doses below or just at that dose...

I would think that to some degree that is relevant, since alot of GH users, and high dosage IGF users have historically shown distended bellies on stage...Not sure that you could prove a dose since there are so many variables to determine as such, but regardless I personally am not going to go higher.

When you talk about the pro's extended guts it's more due to the excessive amounts of GH they use. I know guys that pop a minimum 10IU's GH so I don't think they are to worried about going over 50mcg's of IGF. I personally like the dose of 50-60IU's because if you use 50mcg's 5x/wk or 60mcg 4x/wk you make 1 vial of IGF last 4 weeks.

 

[saudades]

GH's effects are due to conversion to IGF in the liver, thus IGF can also give one the distended gut though I would believe that is in excessive doses and/or if you are prone to developing the gut. I'd also submit that their guts are partially distended because of the amount of food some of them eat.

 

[pincushion]

I've told this story over and over but I swear the roots of my teeth grew while on, I was using in the 100-120mcg range for a short time to try and see what the results would be. My dentist who is a college roommate of my wife insisted that there was something weird because the roots of my teeth were larger than the prior years exrays. I convinced my wife that it was because they took the x-rays from closer in this time but I know our dentist knew something was going on... lol

other then your teeth what was your results at 100mcg to 120mcg and how long did you run that. im at 60mcgs M,W,F,S and i all ready like my results i cant imagine what 120mcg was like....

 

[mcgaret]

when you guys say 50 or 60 mcg's - do you mean 1 application or split into two??
Say biceps. would you rub it into just one or split it between the two??

 

[saudades]

Most split between the two. If one arm is lagging behind the other, then you could just apply it to the one.

 

[mikeswift]

i always split it up between left and right and to answer the previous question at the higher doses the sides add up and I just got really tired and didn't see much of a difference between using 60 or 80 than using 100 - 120 so I generally will use 40mcg twice a day now and I get great results from that.

 

[pincushion]

i always split it up between left and right and to answer the previous question at the higher doses the sides add up and I just got really tired and didn't see much of a difference between using 60 or 80 than using 100 - 120 so I generally will use 40mcg twice a day now and I get great results from that.

40mcg twice a day ed or eod? and how many weeks do you like to run and how many weeks do you take off? Im going to run 60mcg m,w,f,s, for 8 weeks then take off 4weeks then back to 80mcgs m,w,f,s for 8 more weeks, 4 weeks off,back and forth for the rest of the year. DO you think this would be good or not, im also on 1200mg of Cyp, 900mg Eq 750mgs of Deca and starting D-bols at 50mg a day for the next 6 months...... Thanks for your help..

 

[dreww]

dbol for 6 months?!

 

[pincushion]

well thats how much i have, but i would probley switch it up for some other oral from time to time. but i heard that dbols are great to stack with my cycle so thats why i got so much.

 

[irishpride]

well thats how much i have, but i would probley switch it up for some other oral from time to time. but i heard that dbols are great to stack with my cycle so thats why i got so much.

6 months straight of a 17aa oral would def mess with your liver, run it 4 weeks on 4-6off or so

 

[Spiderman]

Yikes bro...hope that was a mispost on the dbol for 6 months.

 

[pincushion]

ok then maybe i will take d-bol when i go off igf for 4-6week and cycle it back and forth, what do you think? it seems like i always go overboard with everything!!! i used to take as much gear as i could afford untill i run out, then that would be the end of my cycle, it is a hard habbit to break. Thanks for the info and looking out..

 

[dreww]

ok then maybe i will take d-bol when i go off igf for 4-6week and cycle it back and forth, what do you think? it seems like i always go overboard with everything!!! i used to take as much gear as i could afford untill i run out, then that would be the end of my cycle, it is a hard habbit to break. Thanks for the info and looking out..

thats a very bad habit. The problem is dbol loses its effectiveness, like most all orals, after only a few weeks. At least in most of the users. That is why you stop using them after a few weeks.

why take something when its not working anymore?

 

[gotgame54]

I'm running 50mcgs On Days only, 1x per day, with good results....haven't been able to try 20 x 2, or 30 x 2....

Alot of bodybuilders I have talked to believe that 50mcgs+ is responsible for internal organ growth, more so than muscular development and they keep their doses below or just at that dose...

I would think that to some degree that is relevant, since alot of GH users, and high dosage IGF users have historically shown distended bellies on stage...Not sure that you could prove a dose since there are so many variables to determine as such, but regardless I personally am not going to go higher.

IGF-1 doesn't have effect on internal organs when it comes to extended guts and such. When GH converts to IGF it converts to 2 forms IGF-1 and IGF-2. IGF-1 is responsible for muscle tissue, tendons and such while IGF-2 is responsible for internal organs and the abnormal bone growth. When GH users take too much GH I believe anything around 10 or more I.U's a day for long periods of time that's when IGF-2 levels go out of control which gives you the classic Hulk Hogan or Ronnie Coleman belly. My personal experience with IGF-1 was awesome. I felt recovered after every workout, I noticed a decrease in fat and just slept a lot better. I've used 60 mcgs and I've gone as high as 120 mcgs with no sides from it. I would not recommend anything less than 50mcgs. Also I've used IGF-1 with juice and without with great results. Don't worry about GH Belly unless your running high dosages of GH for a long time.

 

[mikeswift]

I've never encountered belly growth from IGF, if anything my stomach does a lot of shrinking when on and I don't have to alter my diet or cardio much. No distended belly here!