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The Survivor

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OK so I'm seeing a Dr for my diastasis recti and atrophied left tricep, hes been cool as shit to me so far, Now he's sending me to PT for both these and he wants a blood panel done. I think he;s pretty anti steroid (as most Drs) and hes asked me if I'm taking them, and thinking my insurance would cancel me, I lied and told him not for many yrs.

He ordered a comprehensive metabolic panel (cpanel), a hemogram, iron profile, TSH panel and B and D vitamin panel. I'm kind of worried hes going to notice my liver values inflated and start with the questions.....4 yrs ago I had same done and my liver had some stress on it and I just kind of let it slide. But this guy would probably go in search of answers. Is there anything I can tell him as a ruse to explain why my liver stress is up? Like using Iboprofen? Or another drug that might do it? I been taking liver cleanse for 4 months now. I walked out of clinic w/o making appt to try and figure my next move.

I'm currently low dosing 300 test, and 300 of decca a week, how long would these show up on a panel if I ceased taking? I know about the afterlife but how about detection rates from a non steroid test?

The last thing I need to do is lose my insurance! Any advice much appreciated
 
OK so I'm seeing a Dr for my diastasis recti and atrophied left tricep, hes been cool as shit to me so far, Now he's sending me to PT for both these and he wants a blood panel done. I think he;s pretty anti steroid (as most Drs) and hes asked me if I'm taking them, and thinking my insurance would cancel me, I lied and told him not for many yrs.

He ordered a comprehensive metabolic panel (cpanel), a hemogram, iron profile, TSH panel and B and D vitamin panel. I'm kind of worried hes going to notice my liver values inflated and start with the questions.....4 yrs ago I had same done and my liver had some stress on it and I just kind of let it slide. But this guy would probably go in search of answers. Is there anything I can tell him as a ruse to explain why my liver stress is up? Like using Iboprofen? Or another drug that might do it? I been taking liver cleanse for 4 months now. I walked out of clinic w/o making appt to try and figure my next move.

I'm currently low dosing 300 test, and 300 of decca a week, how long would these show up on a panel if I ceased taking? I know about the afterlife but how about detection rates from a non steroid test?

The last thing I need to do is lose my insurance! Any advice much appreciated

U will be good..
I pull comp met panel and all that on tren cut did other day and for unexpected surgery before have labs on tren. Lol they good

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I will post my labs on Tren for unexpected surgery. Hemysteroid!! Lol! Heavy squats
That's test prop 65 ed tren ace 75 ed mast p 150 ed anavar 75mg a day
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Don't freak out brother. You're not doing orals so you liver values should not be elevated. There not checking your test levels, it's just a cbc. BTW, after a heavy workout your ast/alt numbers will rise. You'll be alright
 
OK I feel better, so if my liver values are even slightly elevated, how do I defer that? I had a few beers night before? Or took a pain killer? Or I had intense squat session? I think he went back 4 yrs ago and saw some elevation, then he asked me about drinking but I may have been on orals then

Will it do any good to go off for a bit before blood test? Or double up on the liver cleanse? I'll do anything to keep this Dr as he sincerly wants to help me overcome my physical issues

I will be a bit nervous about all this if nothing else, due to me being on for many yrs, albeit low dosages and taking breaks. The C word terrifies me :cry:
 
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OK I feel better, so if my liver values are even slightly elevated, how do I defer that? I had a few beers night before? Or took a pain killer? Or I had intense squat session? I think he went back 4 yrs ago and saw some elevation, then he asked me about drinking but I may have been on orals then

Will it do any good to go off for a bit before blood test? Or double up on the liver cleanse? I'll do anything to keep this Dr as he sincerly wants to help me overcome my physical issues

I will be a bit nervous about all this if nothing else, due to me being on for many yrs, albeit low dosages and taking breaks. The C word terrifies me :cry:
My liver is never high even from orals but I always check at least 1 month after using heavy orals like Anadrol, Superdrol, Dbol etc.... my liver only a couple numbers above 4 weeks after those types orals.

It's my Lipids that can be wacked!!

Although I remember 1x my TRT Dr told me my liver enzymes were sort of elevated i didnt get copy of those labs had ran orals before stopping 4 weeks to recover, oral was Epistane. Lol!!
My response was i had been drinking more often because of holidays and also taking alot of Acetaminophen for sore neck!!!

His response slack off of the drinking and take more Ibuprofen. He ended up giving me a pack of Medrol ( Methyl Prednisone)
Because my neck was sore and stiff bad. I have bulging C5/C6 disc. The muscle soreness as stated can raise AST I think it is.... one or other haven't looked back on which in a while with liver refresh of my memory!! Lol

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But I have 2 Dr I see.. one is my reg once a month Dr who writes me scripts that need to be written 1x every month(adhd) meds..

Other Dr TRT Dr, who is just internal medicine. My insurance won't or hadn't covered my reg Dr because if 1 of meds given monthly but it pays for the med.. crazy... so I go to other Dr for TRT and it covers both visit, TRT, and most of labs except deductible...

Anyway both Dr's do labs TRT every 6 months the other Dr 1 to 2x a year like labs u taken. I have been on a blast 9 out of 10 times with reg Dr labs and this goes back 12-13 years.... only thing I ever have had elevated was red blood cells especially Hemoglobin!!!

So for 12-13 years of being on a blast nothing for me except Hemoglobin affected in normal bloods from reg esterfied injectable gear!!!

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OK I feel better, so if my liver values are even slightly elevated, how do I defer that? I had a few beers night before? Or took a pain killer? Or I had intense squat session? I think he went back 4 yrs ago and saw some elevation, then he asked me about drinking but I may have been on orals then

Will it do any good to go off for a bit before blood test? Or double up on the liver cleanse? I'll do anything to keep this Dr as he sincerly wants to help me overcome my physical issues

I will be a bit nervous about all this if nothing else, due to me being on for many yrs, albeit low dosages and taking breaks. The C word terrifies me :cry:

What are u running?? Tell us that!!
But yes your response to liver enzymes elevated would simple ok it's holidays I gotta stop the drinking. That u don't often and if it affects liver that much..... that u not Gonna do it or cut it to 2 drinks instead of 6 for get to gethers!!!

If u on short esters yes back off if u have time.

Tell us cycle, what u using how much and how long been on!!

I wouldn't stress it at all. I was over 1500 of testosterone at TRT in July and I just told him I took weekly shot night Monday night and realized last day to pull labs before appointment was the Wednesday morning.. my Lipids were wacked. He order A1C, another lipids for Jan coming. I had a contest gig and stayed on too long, I used Androl 50 8 weeks straight and t3/t4 for 5 months. I had dropped t3/t4 only like 12 days before because of contest date but the Androl dropped around 5 weeks but had used Anavar and Winny, Winny only last 2 weeks because of labs coming. My liver was good. My lipids and glucose I strongly feel were from dropping thyroid and my testosterone I had used prop too close plus dropping thyroid prolly slow that metabolism down too.
On those labs TSH was tested and free t4 so I had to drop t3/t4. And with only 12 days my TSH was low end and my free t4 was only a couple #"s low. He didn't say anything I was ripped so he knew or thought my thyroid Gotta work.....
I recovered from thyroid since I am still on hgh 3.3iu a day but no thyroid.
I imagine that my thyroid on the come back for only 12 days was true cause of higher LDL and 119 fasted glucose... my response to the test I stated my response to lipids was since we moved we had been eating fast food constant for prolly 4 months and I had ate at midnight before the labs and he said....fasted labs should be 10 hours min but 12 best for lipids.

Just gave u my example of what it took for bad and my responses

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What are u running?? Tell us that!!
But yes your response to liver enzymes elevated would simple ok it's holidays I gotta stop the drinking. That u don't often and if it affects liver that much..... that u not Gonna do it or cut it to 2 drinks instead of 6 for get to gethers!!!

If u on short esters yes back off if u have time.

Tell us cycle, what u using how much and how long been on!!

I wouldn't stress it at all. I was over 1500 of testosterone at TRT in July and I just told him I took weekly shot night Monday night and realized last day to pull labs before appointment was the Wednesday morning.. my Lipids were wacked. He order A1C, another lipids for Jan coming. I had a contest gig and stayed on too long, I used Androl 50 8 weeks straight and t3/t4 for 5 months. I had dropped t3/t4 only like 12 days before because of contest date but the Androl dropped around 5 weeks but had used Anavar and Winny, Winny only last 2 weeks because of labs coming. My liver was good. My lipids and glucose I strongly feel were from dropping thyroid and my testosterone I had used prop too close plus dropping thyroid prolly slow that metabolism down too.
On those labs TSH was tested and free t4 so I had to drop t3/t4. And with only 12 days my TSH was low end and my free t4 was only a couple #"s low. He didn't say anything I was ripped so he knew or thought my thyroid Gotta work.....
I recovered from thyroid since I am still on hgh 3.3iu a day but no thyroid.
I imagine that my thyroid on the come back for only 12 days was true cause of higher LDL and 119 fasted glucose... my response to the test I stated my response to lipids was since we moved we had been eating fast food constant for prolly 4 months and I had ate at midnight before the labs and he said....fasted labs should be 10 hours min but 12 best for lipids.

Just gave u my example of what it took for bad and my responses

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Thanks Bro for yr replys, good info no doubt
I been on since mid summer, been alternating between Test Prop (every 3rd day) and Enthanate (every 5th day) but mostly the latter. Been doing 300 mg with Decca same shot mostly for my joints etc, also 300 mg with the test.

I need to schedule my labs during holidays though, what a great time to use too much beer! I just hope my Dr wont get suspious as he has already stated not too many 59 yr olds look like me, a compliment but hope it wont work against me!
 
Don't freak out brother. You're not doing orals so you liver values should not be elevated. There not checking your test levels, it's just a cbc. BTW, after a heavy workout your ast/alt numbers will rise. You'll be alright
The last thing I want to do is arouse suspicions! At mild dose you really think values wont rise? God I hope not, I need to chill and stop worrying
 
Trust me they don't rise. The only time I had elevated numbers is when I was on creatine. Yes, creatine did it for me. I get bloodwork every 3-5 months. A few years ago I noticed my numbers were creeping yup. I soon as I dropped the creatine my numbers went way down. Google "elevated liver and work out"
 
What are u running?? Tell us that!!
But yes your response to liver enzymes elevated would simple ok it's holidays I gotta stop the drinking. That u don't often and if it affects liver that much..... that u not Gonna do it or cut it to 2 drinks instead of 6 for get to gethers!!!

If u on short esters yes back off if u have time.

Tell us cycle, what u using how much and how long been on!!

I wouldn't stress it at all. I was over 1500 of testosterone at TRT in July and I just told him I took weekly shot night Monday night and realized last day to pull labs before appointment was the Wednesday morning.. my Lipids were wacked. He order A1C, another lipids for Jan coming. I had a contest gig and stayed on too long, I used Androl 50 8 weeks straight and t3/t4 for 5 months. I had dropped t3/t4 only like 12 days before because of contest date but the Androl dropped around 5 weeks but had used Anavar and Winny, Winny only last 2 weeks because of labs coming. My liver was good. My lipids and glucose I strongly feel were from dropping thyroid and my testosterone I had used prop too close plus dropping thyroid prolly slow that metabolism down too.
On those labs TSH was tested and free t4 so I had to drop t3/t4. And with only 12 days my TSH was low end and my free t4 was only a couple #"s low. He didn't say anything I was ripped so he knew or thought my thyroid Gotta work.....
I recovered from thyroid since I am still on hgh 3.3iu a day but no thyroid.
I imagine that my thyroid on the come back for only 12 days was true cause of higher LDL and 119 fasted glucose... my response to the test I stated my response to lipids was since we moved we had been eating fast food constant for prolly 4 months and I had ate at midnight before the labs and he said....fasted labs should be 10 hours min but 12 best for lipids.

Just gave u my example of what it took for bad and my responses

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If the test isnt detectable, is there any benefit from going off the decca for a while?
 
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