Next cycle?

[DOUBLE J]

I`m 5`10" 215lbs 39 15% BF
This will be my 5th cycle with liqudex and usual post cycle.

Hows this look so far?





Something like this?

WK1-20 1gram Test enth a/wk (icn`s)
wk1-4or5 100mg Drol ED (1st time on Drol)
WK1-8 400mg Deca a/wk (hella`s)
wk11-19 100mg tren EOD ???

I do think I`ll add prop at WK1-4 at100mg ED

Is D-bol at wks 14-20 a bad idea at 50mg ED(shorter period?)
I`m not trying to cut at the end.Just not add body fat above 15% since it winter

Deca is "left over`s" and I like to run test a couple of weeks past tren. Seems to make coming off easier.

 

[LA]

If you are starting at 15% BF then you will end up over 15% BF. Did I get this right?

 

[DOUBLE J]

I been off for 2mos with tendonities and BF is higher than usual. I plan to start in about a month. Arm should be fine before then.

So this is not a cutter for sure. I do hope not to add any more BF and will possible drop a point or two by eating fairly clean.

Probably 3500-4000 cals a day and 350+ protein a day

 

[weight77`]

The cycle looks pretty good to me other than a few things.. I am running one just like it right now but with 800mg of eq instead of decca and test cyp at 1 gram with.....

I dont think it would be wise to run the dbol at the end of the cycle. Tren will beat up your live pretty bad but with the added dbol you would really be hurting...

The drol is pretty high for first time you might want to start out lower and work your way up.....

 

[BiggerStronger]

No flame but I've never seen any research proving that tren is liver toxic or kidney toxic for that matter. Do you have any articles that proves this?

 

[Max-HC]

No flame but I've never seen any research proving that tren is liver toxic or kidney toxic for that matter. Do you have any articles that proves this?

I agree i came off a 8 week tren only cycle and had blood work done my first time with tren to see if everthing was ok
the only thing that was high was test & calcium levels

 

[DOUBLE J]

So hows it look for the D-bol and otherwise?

 

[Max-HC]

I always kick start with prop & tren wks 1-5 not in to orals.
never though of ending bulker with tren might try it this go round.

 

[BiggerStronger]

So hows it look for the D-bol and otherwise?

I don't know bro...It seems like it would just put a lot of water weight on you. You would drop it fast after stopping everything. Maybe save it for next time or just use it and see what it does for you...your preference.

Everything looks pretty good, but instead of d-bol I would drop the enanthate at week 18 and run test prop @ 125mg ed weeks 18-20. Run the tren through week 20 if possible.

If you can, run EQ weeks 1-20 (doesn't shut you down too hard)
Deca and EQ are long acting steroids so the longer you run them the better. (Deca will probably shut you down pretty hard though) At the very least I would run the deca a little longer maybe 12 weeks.

 

[DOUBLE J]

I did`nt know I had part of an order I thought had been totally seized 2 yrs ago. Hidden in clomid boxes . I only have enough for 400mg at 8wks or else I`d probably do 600mg for 12. Deca bloats be worse than anything so I`d like to run what I have this winter as a bonus. I tried EQ at 800 for 16 wks and was`nt impressed. I guess I`m one it does`nt work as well for as deca does. I never got the hunger either?

 

[BiggerStronger]

I did`nt know I had part of an order I thought had been totally seized 2 yrs ago. Hidden in clomid boxes . I only have enough for 400mg at 8wks or else I`d probably do 600mg for 12. Deca bloats be worse than anything so I`d like to run what I have this winter as a bonus. I tried EQ at 800 for 16 wks and was`nt impressed. I guess I`m one it does`nt work as well for as deca does. I never got the hunger either?

Well, whatever you got bro. Some don't respond too well to EQ. I like it mainly for the vascularity. It seems to keep the bloat down...

Plus with my current go around with EQ @ 500mg ew it seemed to actually increase my appetite. Last time I didn't experience that too much.

I would definitely use prop though. The enanthate will self taper and you can start Clomid or Nolva a few days after you stop everything. (assuming you stop the enanthate at week 18 and start prop)

 

[DOUBLE J]

thanks BS, will do

 

[getinripped]

Thats a nice cycle ........but I was always told never to run the Deca with tren. because of the higher chance of gyno. I dont know how true it is but thats what I was told. Good luck Bro

 

[weight77`]

No flame but I've never seen any research proving that tren is liver toxic or kidney toxic for that matter. Do you have any articles that proves this?

After a cycle of it (13 weeks) around 100mg eod.I had blood work done and my liver enzymes were outta wack...but this could be caused by many things... I had also injured my should which can raise the levels....but I took it as the tren and still do....

But like I said there are many variables...

 

[BLEED GREEN]

Why the Drol AND Prop wks 1-4/5? You can not kick start a cycle 2xs......Just trying to get your thoughts...

 

[weight77`]

Thats a nice cycle ........but I was always told never to run the Deca with tren. because of the higher chance of gyno. I dont know how true it is but thats what I was told. Good luck Bro

I agree that tren and deca should not be run together but not for that reason.....they counter each other.....but this is going on that you are using for the look....most use tren to get hard....and deca makes you soft and hold water....

I dont think the gyno holds any weight with being true....

 

[BLEED GREEN]

BTW the rest of the cycle looks great...20 weeker!

 

[DOUBLE J]

I`m trying to stay clear of progesterone(sp) problems by starting tren 3 wks after the deca. Is that enough?
As far as the Prop at first I have had better luck early on with Prop and d-bol, though this is the first time with Drol. Like coca-cola I thought everything went better with test .

 

[BiggerStronger]

oh sorry bro didn't notice the deca and tren were so close together. You might want to wait until week 12 to run tren. That should give it enough time to clear. Keep an eye on it and see if any symptoms appear....if so just drop the tren for 2-3 more weeks.

 

[DOUBLE J]

no problem