Okay so really whats the deal ...

[Massive-E]

Okay so i thought i'd throw this out there, knowing full well i might just get the standard replies that come to peoples head. But here we go.

Do you really think that Genetics really has that much to do with bodybuilding these days?

The reason i ask i this is ...

I train hard, i eat clean & frequent & lots, i look good enough for a regional BB show. But i never seem to make MASSIVE gains that would put me to the next level. Even on even the heaviest stacks of growth, peptides, anti bodies etc


There is no golden answer i know .. but can genetics really be a limiting thing with all these aids out there to change this factor for the better.


Im hitting Myostatin inhibitors soon, with big dosages ... this surely will redeem results! :bench:

 

[Ox 51]

I think genetics make a HUGE difference. If you are on gear with bad genetics, you will obviously bypass all the people with good genetics who aren't on gear. But, people with bad genetics who are on gear will probably not catch the people with good genetics who are also on gear. And other things come into play, like how hard you work and whether you are using the best training methods and all that.

 

[nuknuk]

yes, genetics is the main factor.

 

[formernpc]

Steve Cavenaugh told me years ago...."Jeff, bodybuilding is all about picking the right parents." I have a half brother who lives in Tennessee. We have the same father, but obviously not the same mother. We look alot alike in the upper body, but from the waist down...
He just doesn't have the legs...or even the amount of mass in his legs to GROW them to the size he needs.
Look at Sylvester Stallone...guy can get ripped, but look at the muscle shape, insertion points etc. Just wouldn't ever be able to compete. Yeah, you gotta pick the right parents.

 

[The Dude]

Agreed. I think it's a matter of how good your genetics are in many ways. Muscle growth, attainable size are obviously important, but so are tendon strength, insertion points, muscle bellies, joint size, clavicular width, waist size, immune system strength, ability to properly assimilate all the food you eat and your bodies ability to handle the massive doses. Just to name a few...

 

[Metal85]

I agree with the 2 above

 

[Rep]

genetics and time in your life. My homeostasis early on in my lifting days, was that I had a metabolism like a ferrari and no matter how much gear, lifting or calories was going to change that. My body fought it tooth-n-nail. I think your homeostasis or how your body is NOW which is part of genetics is the key. basically Im being long winded as usual but I hate "blanket" statements without thought. Now my body is different and I can grow easier.
Hope that helps

 

[big in vegas]

Genetics play a huge part. Of course all the other stuff help out, but you've gotta have good genetics to start with

 

[saudades]

I agree, too, genetics are a huge part.

 

[dorian123]

yup genetics all the way-the best analogy that I can think of is take a look at dogs...

fundamentally they are all the same and have evolved from wolves

however, even on state of the art drugs a weiner dog will never get as big as a rott, no matter how much you force feed it

 

[mike ross]

genetics are the single biggest factor period. you can change insertions of muscles, muscle belly dimensions and other things...just my 2 cents

 

[formernpc]

genetics are the single biggest factor period. you can change insertions of muscles, muscle belly dimensions and other things...just my 2 cents

How are you going to change insertions?

 

[mike ross]

meant cant...sorry...cant change insertions, muscle belly dimension,etc

trying to answer questions for work and post at same time...rough

 

[formernpc]

meant cant...sorry...cant change insertions, muscle belly dimension,etc

trying to answer questions for work and post at same time...rough

LOL....I getcha! I am doing the same...

 

[Ox 51]

So, do you think you can alter the genetics you pass on to your children? By lifting weights for years before having kids, will your kids have any better genetics than you had?

 

[formernpc]

So, do you think you can alter the genetics you pass on to your children? By lifting weights for years before having kids, will your kids have any better genetics than you had?

That my friend is a question for people far smarter than I am. I think they usually have multiple phd's behind their names.

 

[Metal85]

So, do you think you can alter the genetics you pass on to your children? By lifting weights for years before having kids, will your kids have any better genetics than you had?

Nope they will not. I have actually asked this question specifically to college profesors as well as if u juice, will it affect the genes too. Basically much further down the line thousands of years, if your family all follows the same trends it at that point is supposed to have and effect, but like if your dad grandpa and great grandpa all lifted, it wont entail u being able to get biggere more easily.

 

[dreww]

Marry a german discus thrower named helga and have kids. That's the only way you're gonna pass on better genetics for bodybuilding to your kids

 

[Boomer]

WOuld you say you could the family genetics .. for instance.. i have little village dwelling parents. My family are all small to average size. i am the biggest at 6'3. over the years of training i have managed to put of 30kgs (66lbs) and i plan to put on more.

now will my children have stronger genetics to grow muscle because i pushed through the barriers to grow?

 

[formernpc]

WOuld you say you could the family genetics .. for instance.. i have little village dwelling parents. My family are all small to average size. i am the biggest at 6'3. over the years of training i have managed to put of 30kgs (66lbs) and i plan to put on more.

now will my children have stronger genetics to grow muscle because i pushed through the barriers to grow?

I don't personally know. Genetics is a very inexact science I do know that. My youngest daughter who passed away was #29 in the world with a rare genetic disorder. It destroyed me because I thought I had done this by my gear usage years ago. When we went to the genetiscist she told us that this wasn't the case and the whys things happen genetically we don't really know...