OMG! - the pain!

[JERRYLEE]

I am trying to run mast/Prop/tren - 100mg EOD. But I had to quit after the 2nd injection...the PIP is crippling..no kidding. I have run tren & prop in the past with no problem..but this blend (ROBO) is kicking my ass! Any vets have a recommendation on minimizing PIP?

 

[amaru]

I am trying to run mast/Prop/tren - 100mg EOD. But I had to quit after the 2nd injection...the PIP is crippling..no kidding. I have run tren & prop in the past with no problem..but this blend (ROBO) is kicking my ass! Any vets have a recommendation on minimizing PIP?

I had some from another. It was phenomenal

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[noworries301]

I heat my Vials in warm Water and have had some pain with fast acting compounds but the heating them has worked wonders for me


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[noworries301]

Do u mean robolicslabs?



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[LeatherHead]

You can try heating them up, and also try to cut the dosage in half and do ED. If you're not pushing so much into your muscle at one time, it might help. It worked for me in the past.

 

[drtbear1967]

What size rig are you using? It could be a combination of several things. If your needle is very big, you can inject a lot of oil at one time and this will cause issues. Do as everyone has suggested, warm the oil in hot water, just put it under hot running water for a minute and then slowly inject. If this doesn't help, you may have to do as Leatherhead said and do 1/2 ED.

 

[BigZ]

This is a 100mg blend of mast/prop/tren? Sounds like there'd be a lot of benzyl alcohol in there to preserve it. For just 1cc EOD, the ol' heating trick should work. You might want to heat the vial itself (not directly but like a double-boiler) and vent the top with a sterile needle tip. That will allow some of the BA to vent out and should help reduce PIP later.

 

[yellow snow]

Or when all else fails stop rotating and use slin pin and just shoot it in the ass. No PIP does much when you shoot it in your ass (cheeks that is). I have found when PIP is bad it is killer in legs, shoulders, etc...........it is like a 7 day sore times 3.

 

[Ox 51]

When you get a batch like that, there is really not much you can do. I had some a few years ago that hurt like that. I'd get severe test flu after each injection and the injection site hurt like hell for a few days. When I injected glutes, I could barely sit for the next few days. Heating helped only a little. You can either dose up on Advil and deal with it, or get a new batch.

 

[LeatherHead]

I had some PCT Shop gear that killed me, no matter if it was the tren, mast, or test that I was taking. Crazy pain, red and swollen around the injection site. I would ice the area, take aleve or advil, and suck it up, until it finally got the point where I couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't squat down to tie my shoes because for 3 or 4 days after I pinned my quads, it was too painful. So I sold it to a friend and he said it hurts, but he doesn't care, he's going to take it all. Some gear just hurts.

 

[Magyar86]

Wonder if they used EO (ethyl oleate) some guys don't do well with EO and it causes a lot of pip.


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[LeatherHead]

Wonder if they used EO (ethyl oleate) some guys don't do well with EO and it causes a lot of pip.


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Maybe. Another guy I sold the rest of my stuff to just stopped to see me and he's limping. I asked what's wrong with his leg and he told me that he pinned the cyp I sold him last night and now he's in crazy pain. He said the first few times he thought he was doing something wrong, but I told him that there's a lot of pip with that gear. That's why I sold it.

 

[JERRYLEE]

heating/venting the vial has helped a bunch. Still painful - but no nearly as bad as it was.

 

[IronJulius]

heating/venting the vial has helped a bunch. Still painful - but no nearly as bad as it was.

Also inject slower maybe mix some extra tren A or Mast P to help. Those rip combos are painful to many at 250mg if it's 100mg of each that concentrated short ester ouch

 

[chihuahua]

If all fails try cutting it with some good old cottonseed oil. I've had to do this a few times. Works every time.

 

[LMC-Caroline]

What Causes (Non Infection Related) Injection Pain:
First the shorter the ester, the higher the melting point; Second, the concentration of the gear; Third, the solvents used; Fourth, injecting too quickly; Fifth, virgin muscle.

 

[yellow snow]

What Causes (Non Infection Related) Injection Pain:
First the shorter the ester, the higher the melting point; Second, the concentration of the gear; Third, the solvents used; Fourth, injecting too quickly; Fifth, virgin muscle.

I think it is all gear dependenant. I have used both E and A and gotten crippling PIP, I always use 30g slin pins so injecting too quickly is not an issue.............virgin muscle is not an issue.................I think it all comes down to batch to batch product. One batch same brand same product ; smooth as butter/ another crippling PIP.

 

[LMC-Caroline]

I think it is all gear dependenant. I have used both E and A and gotten crippling PIP, I always use 30g slin pins so injecting too quickly is not an issue.............virgin muscle is not an issue.................I think it all comes down to batch to batch product. One batch same brand same product ; smooth as butter/ another crippling PIP.

PIP different by person, just like there is also a part of them don't have this problem, what I pointed out is the factor which may cause these problems, and what I stated is real exist.

 

[deepak]

"Yellow snow" you are right mostly it depends on batch to batch like I used test prop of same lab 2 years ago one batch was painfully as hell and second was not that much

 

[JERRYLEE]

I added BB (to 20% by volume) - and absolutely no PIP. Even 24 hours later, no pain at all.