I agree totally. I wasn't making gains on 600mg test, 900mg of Deca, and 600mg of EQ. Added IGF and LGD and S4 and now I'm making substantial gains on 200mg of test, 200mg of Deca, and 200mg of EQ. I actually was still making decent gains at the lower AAS doses with IGF alone. So 1/3 the AAS dose and actually MAKING gains..