It gets many positive reviews. I had a personal powerlifter friend who survived cancer but got down to 170lbs try it because he felt he could never compete again so he wanted to try bodybuilding show. And decided to run the mix 2 said it was his best cycle ever and looked his best but couldn't get rid of love handles so didn't do it but was able to get back into powerlifting. He ran it 1ml with .5ml of tren a eod said it still had a little pip bite but not bad and that's how I would suggest running it. I want to try it but I try to stick with long esters less pinning and I'm ok with a little extra bloat