Hmm.. I may need to try that one. I'm wanting to put together an anabolics cycle with the only androgen being my TRT and maybe some deca thrown in there to help my joints. I seem to do best with anabolics for some reason. Others can stack on size and mass using dianabol or anadrol, but I do better with tren, halotestin, winstrol, anavar, and I suspect other similar anabolics.