Buffalo
MuscleChemistry Member
This is my first ph cycle ………..
M1t is not the right ph to start out on ph’s. M1t is the fine line between steroids and prosteroids. If used right it can have positive effects but carelessness and lack of research can lead to irrevesible damage. I would strongly recommend either 1AD or 1-T before running m1t. It always helps to have some kind of experience with prohormones before getting to use something this toxic.
I have just got a bottle of m1t , how do I use it.
The safest way to use m1t is to keep the dosage low. All over the boards you can find people using m1t up to high doses of 20mg. I would suggest the following cycle.
Week 1 – 5mg
Week 2 – 10mg
Week 3 - 10mg
Week 4 – 10mg
What times of the day do I take m1t?
Different people have different opinions to this question. From what I've seen, the over all consensus is to take the first dose in the morning with an empty stomach with loads of water. The next with your preworkout meal with good fats like EFA's and peanut butter. m1t reduces blood sugar levels hence the lethargy. A carb and fat rich meal would somehow help a little bit here.This is my opinion, others differ with it. However preworkout m1t gives awesome pumps during the workout/weight training routine.
Does m1t require a PCT?
The presence of M1t in the body inhibits the production of the body’s natural testosterone. Once you jump off the cycle you will need to restart your body’s natural test production. A Post Cycle Therapy is therefore required.
Give me a sample m1t PCT.
Week 5 Nolvadex 40mg 6oxo –600mg
Week 6 Nolvadex 40mg 6oxo - 600mg
Week 7 Nolvadex 20mg 6oxo – 300mg
Week 8 Nolvadex 20mg 6oxo - 100mg
Is 6oxo good enough by itself for a m1t PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. Also 6oxo is not as effective an anti estrogen as Nolvadex. Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an m1t cycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
What are the sides of m1t, how can I combat these sides?
The common sides of m1t are
*Lethargy and Feverishness – Stack m1t with 4AD. Preload 4AD @ 200mg / day (dermal) or 400mg/day (oral) for 1 week.
Followed by 4AD alongside m1t for 4 weeks @ 400mg/ day dermal or 900mg/day oral .
*Back pain, soreness, tingling sensations: This maybe attributed to the lowering of Potassium values in the body. Increased potassium intake with loads of water should take care of lower back pain. Bananas and soy milk are the secret to combat this problem.
*Testicular atrophy a.k.a my balls are shrinking :
Yes, this is a common side effect of using any prohormone. However this is nothing to worry about. Under normal circumstances, you will get back to your normal size after the PCT.
Incase of extreme cases the following can be tried.
Day 1 Clomid @ 300mg
Week 5 Clomid @ 100mg
Week 5/6 Clomid @ 50mg
To the best of my knowledge this has cured most cases of testicular atrophy.
*Puffy nipples, soreness aka gyno
To make a long story short excess test is converted to estrogen in the body. This leads to the famous problem called gyno. In most cases, estrogen based gyno can be handled too.
Week 5-6 Nolva @ 80mg
Week 7-8 Nolva @ 40mg
Week9-10 Nolva @ 20mg
*Loss of libido, loss of erectile hardness etc in the PCT.
“I used 4AD, I was fine, but i just got into the pct I am losing my drive”. This is another commonly heard complaint. 4AD converts to test. In your pct, you stop 4AD while your receptor sites have not started your body's natural production of test. If you want to get your drive back I would suggest using both Nolva and Clomid together. Clomid however makes you moody and prone to irritation, therefore be cautious and use clomid at lower doses.
If you want to have sex while using m1t and are “ not able to get it up” then I would suggest you use Tadafil Citrate aka Cialis. I personally feel Cialis is more effective than Viagra.
*Nose Bleeds:
This is attributed to elevated BP , blood pressure levels while using m1t. Hawthorne berry must be used to keep this in check.
What is preloading? How does it help my liver?
M1t takes the oral route within the body. The body’s natural filter is the liver. M1t is toxic, this means that your liver will take a beating while you use M1t. It is always better to preload that is to run a liver protector before jumping on the cycle.
Milk thistle @ 1000mg preloaded along with 4AD a week before the m1t starts.
PCT Milk thistle @ 1000mg for 2 weeks.
If budget permits you can also look into NAC.
Does running milk thistle along side m1t inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.
What are other good supplements I can run along side m1t.
Make sure you take your multivitamins and EFA’s. If creatine works for you , go for it. Pretty much I would recommend using m1t for bulking. Some use ph’s for cutting cycles. M1t may not be ideal to run for a cutting cycle but this is only my opinion.
>Hawthorne berry is also a great supplement to control BP. Dosage is around 565mg/day.
>Tribulus is a great testosterone booster that can be included in the PCT
Week 5&6 - 5g/day
Week 7&8 - 2.5g/day
>Zinc: Make sure that your m1t cycle has 35mg of zinc and your PCT has 50mg of zinc.If you can throw in ZMA, wether it works or not, it gives you great sleep so try it if you got the money.
> Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day
I have used m1t before, I want to use it with other methylated products. Is this safe?
m1t is toxic by itself alone. m1t/m5AA cutters are very popluar among many users. However I feel, the load is too much on the liver. You might want to consider a 1AD/m5 kind of stack.
I took m1t, its 2 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not m1t’s fault, there is some mistake on your part. Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on m1t.
My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention attributed to the 4AD. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.
I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.
I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s.
I want to know wether I have fully recovered, what should I do?
If you have the money or if your medical insurace covers it, do a blood work 20-30 days after you stop your pct. Make sure you check your liver and test levels. If it is all back to normal and you have had significant gains, you have had one hell of a cycle!
Last but not the least, find time to sleep. The body repairs and test is boosted during sleep. When on m1t make sure YOU SLEEP FOR 8 HOURS.
I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.
The m1t checklist :
m1t
4AD (optional)
Milkthistle
Hawthorne Berry
Nolvadex
Saw Palmetto
Clomid (optional)
6oxo (optional)
ZMA (optional)
Tribulus
M1t is not the right ph to start out on ph’s. M1t is the fine line between steroids and prosteroids. If used right it can have positive effects but carelessness and lack of research can lead to irrevesible damage. I would strongly recommend either 1AD or 1-T before running m1t. It always helps to have some kind of experience with prohormones before getting to use something this toxic.
I have just got a bottle of m1t , how do I use it.
The safest way to use m1t is to keep the dosage low. All over the boards you can find people using m1t up to high doses of 20mg. I would suggest the following cycle.
Week 1 – 5mg
Week 2 – 10mg
Week 3 - 10mg
Week 4 – 10mg
What times of the day do I take m1t?
Different people have different opinions to this question. From what I've seen, the over all consensus is to take the first dose in the morning with an empty stomach with loads of water. The next with your preworkout meal with good fats like EFA's and peanut butter. m1t reduces blood sugar levels hence the lethargy. A carb and fat rich meal would somehow help a little bit here.This is my opinion, others differ with it. However preworkout m1t gives awesome pumps during the workout/weight training routine.
Does m1t require a PCT?
The presence of M1t in the body inhibits the production of the body’s natural testosterone. Once you jump off the cycle you will need to restart your body’s natural test production. A Post Cycle Therapy is therefore required.
Give me a sample m1t PCT.
Week 5 Nolvadex 40mg 6oxo –600mg
Week 6 Nolvadex 40mg 6oxo - 600mg
Week 7 Nolvadex 20mg 6oxo – 300mg
Week 8 Nolvadex 20mg 6oxo - 100mg
Is 6oxo good enough by itself for a m1t PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. Also 6oxo is not as effective an anti estrogen as Nolvadex. Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an m1t cycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
What are the sides of m1t, how can I combat these sides?
The common sides of m1t are
*Lethargy and Feverishness – Stack m1t with 4AD. Preload 4AD @ 200mg / day (dermal) or 400mg/day (oral) for 1 week.
Followed by 4AD alongside m1t for 4 weeks @ 400mg/ day dermal or 900mg/day oral .
*Back pain, soreness, tingling sensations: This maybe attributed to the lowering of Potassium values in the body. Increased potassium intake with loads of water should take care of lower back pain. Bananas and soy milk are the secret to combat this problem.
*Testicular atrophy a.k.a my balls are shrinking :
Yes, this is a common side effect of using any prohormone. However this is nothing to worry about. Under normal circumstances, you will get back to your normal size after the PCT.
Incase of extreme cases the following can be tried.
Day 1 Clomid @ 300mg
Week 5 Clomid @ 100mg
Week 5/6 Clomid @ 50mg
To the best of my knowledge this has cured most cases of testicular atrophy.
*Puffy nipples, soreness aka gyno
To make a long story short excess test is converted to estrogen in the body. This leads to the famous problem called gyno. In most cases, estrogen based gyno can be handled too.
Week 5-6 Nolva @ 80mg
Week 7-8 Nolva @ 40mg
Week9-10 Nolva @ 20mg
*Loss of libido, loss of erectile hardness etc in the PCT.
“I used 4AD, I was fine, but i just got into the pct I am losing my drive”. This is another commonly heard complaint. 4AD converts to test. In your pct, you stop 4AD while your receptor sites have not started your body's natural production of test. If you want to get your drive back I would suggest using both Nolva and Clomid together. Clomid however makes you moody and prone to irritation, therefore be cautious and use clomid at lower doses.
If you want to have sex while using m1t and are “ not able to get it up” then I would suggest you use Tadafil Citrate aka Cialis. I personally feel Cialis is more effective than Viagra.
*Nose Bleeds:
This is attributed to elevated BP , blood pressure levels while using m1t. Hawthorne berry must be used to keep this in check.
What is preloading? How does it help my liver?
M1t takes the oral route within the body. The body’s natural filter is the liver. M1t is toxic, this means that your liver will take a beating while you use M1t. It is always better to preload that is to run a liver protector before jumping on the cycle.
Milk thistle @ 1000mg preloaded along with 4AD a week before the m1t starts.
PCT Milk thistle @ 1000mg for 2 weeks.
If budget permits you can also look into NAC.
Does running milk thistle along side m1t inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.
What are other good supplements I can run along side m1t.
Make sure you take your multivitamins and EFA’s. If creatine works for you , go for it. Pretty much I would recommend using m1t for bulking. Some use ph’s for cutting cycles. M1t may not be ideal to run for a cutting cycle but this is only my opinion.
>Hawthorne berry is also a great supplement to control BP. Dosage is around 565mg/day.
>Tribulus is a great testosterone booster that can be included in the PCT
Week 5&6 - 5g/day
Week 7&8 - 2.5g/day
>Zinc: Make sure that your m1t cycle has 35mg of zinc and your PCT has 50mg of zinc.If you can throw in ZMA, wether it works or not, it gives you great sleep so try it if you got the money.
> Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day
I have used m1t before, I want to use it with other methylated products. Is this safe?
m1t is toxic by itself alone. m1t/m5AA cutters are very popluar among many users. However I feel, the load is too much on the liver. You might want to consider a 1AD/m5 kind of stack.
I took m1t, its 2 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not m1t’s fault, there is some mistake on your part. Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on m1t.
My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention attributed to the 4AD. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.
I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.
I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s.
I want to know wether I have fully recovered, what should I do?
If you have the money or if your medical insurace covers it, do a blood work 20-30 days after you stop your pct. Make sure you check your liver and test levels. If it is all back to normal and you have had significant gains, you have had one hell of a cycle!
Last but not the least, find time to sleep. The body repairs and test is boosted during sleep. When on m1t make sure YOU SLEEP FOR 8 HOURS.
I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.
The m1t checklist :
m1t
4AD (optional)
Milkthistle
Hawthorne Berry
Nolvadex
Saw Palmetto
Clomid (optional)
6oxo (optional)
ZMA (optional)
Tribulus
