Protocol for Fatloss and Vascularity

[Shaptown]

Hey guys I have ran IGF-1 many many times in the past. This time around I will be running 100mcg daily for the next 100 days straight.

In the past I always applied it IM preworkout in the muscle group that I was doing that day. However, my goals now are oriented less towards muscle gains (hey don't get me wrong I still want them), but rather moreso towards fat loss and vascularizing effects.

Has anyone had any luck in subcutaneously administering it for this effect? I have subq'ed in the past and you get little knots in your stomach, but they do go away after a while.

ULTIMATELY: I just would like to hear everyones recommendation and protocol to run in order to maximize the fat loss effects. I have a bit of stubborn fat on the last layer that I'd really like to get off and I know this will help in addition to the AAS that I will be running at the same time. What does everyone think?

Any and all advice is welcome. Thank you very much everyone!

 

[Mr. Bigs]

i tried sub q a couple times but get the same knots your talking about and they are painful... so i stick to bilateral IM applications... i would suggest running some Tren in your cycle... it helps me with fat loss and increases vascularety

 

[Shaptown]

hey thanks man.

yeah my cycle does include 500mg tren e.

I was thinking about integrating some HGH into my protocol which already includes MC IGF-1 and AAS.

Has anyone had success running HGH and IGF concurrently while cycling, or is there no purpose to running HGH while IGF is on your plate? Thanks again!

 

[saudades]

SubQ doesn't really work for IGF-1 that has been reconstituted with ascetic acid. That's what causes the knots. Stay IM with ascetic acid.

@Shap
Yes, HGH and IGF together is awesome! Running them together is like saying 1 + 1 = 3.

 

[Shaptown]

Thanks saudades! So I have decided to run HGH concurrently along side the IGF.

Also, please take a look in the other forum for my whole cycle.

In addition to the AAS, I will be running the IGF-1 LR3 at 100mcg ED for 100 days straight. As for the HGH I think the most appropriate course of action would be for me to run a 10IU 4-day blast each week with 3 days off after that. I think that way at least the gains will be steady and they nor the fatloss will stop for the duration. Oh and yeah the duration....I am gonna run the HGH blast for 25 weeks straight.

Should I see some awesome gains from my AAS cycle in addition to the Peptides, which in total will be:

Weeks 1-5: 50mg Dbol ED
Weeks 1-5: 50mg Anadrol ED
Weeks 1-18: 75mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-18: 25mg Aromasin ED
Weeks 1-12: 500mg Tren E
Weeks 1-12: 420mg Deca
Weeks 1-13: 750mg Test E
Weeks 2-14: 500 IU HCG
Weeks 15-18: 50mg Clomid ED
Weeks 1-14: IGF-1 LR3 100mcg ED Bilaterally
Weeks 1-25: HGH 10IU 4-DAY WEEKLY BLAST


JESUS HOW FUCKING SEXY DOES THAT LOOK!

 

[Shaptown]

Hey guys. I was talking to a friend who shall remain anonymous, who is on the national circuit.

I was told something that I wanted to discuss with you guys. I'm not quite sure if it is appropriate to merely post a reply in this thread to discuss it, a it is relevant to my original post and the issue at hand. Perhaps I should create a new thread as well to discuss this topic.

Anyway, what was recommended to me, firstly was something that was consistent with advice I have seen saudades give. That is, a 4-day blast per week of HGH is a very efficacious method. He said that this protocol allows for great fat loss as well as muscle gain that will not plateau or slow down for a very very long time.

Now, more regarding that 4-day blast: My buddy said that he personally IVs the HGH when using this protocol as opposed to IM or subcutaneous administration. Supposedly this mimics the manner in which the body natural produces HGH in the anterior pituitary, which is in pulses. He was saying that the other 2 methods which I just mentioned have fairly consistent first and second order kinetics in terms of: release from the injection site into the blood stream, and absorption into the target tissues.

Sure this produces fairly stable blood-levels, but that is NOT what one is after when using a 4-day blast. What we want is to mimic a signal transduction pulse localized to the anterior pituitary that occurs during REM sleep; that is, a rapid and transient change from baseline. The way we accomplish this is by IVing the HGH which has been reconstituted in Bacteriostatic H2O, which mind you is safe for IV administration in case you were worried.

So I am going to be running a 10IU/day 4-day blast for a period of 25 weeks. Would you think utilizing this protocol that I should IV all 10IUs at once? If so, when do you think I should IV them? I am fairly set on IV'ing this; not because I want to stick a needle in my vein but rather because it seems as though this is what is going to cause a very rapid spike of active HGH in the bloodstream. I prefer this as opposed to having the slower process of absorption distribution metabolism and excretion from a depo site such as adipose or muscle tissue. I have never done this before and I am really excited to see the results. Just in case you were not aware, I will be running this HGH protocol concurrently with my AAS cycle which is posted in the main forum, as well as with my MC IGF-1 LR3 regime which consists of 100mcg injected bilaterally every day for 100 days straight.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Hmmm, needles don't really bother me but I'd be hesitant to mainline something. If your buddy is the one telling you to administer it this way, why not ask him whether you should dose all 10IUs at the same time and when it's best to do so? I'd guess most people here haven't used it IV, so their advice may not be as pertinent as his. If you do end up using it like this, please report back or keep a log as it sounds very interesting.

 

[MrPerfect]

i go sub q with my igf and sometimes get knots from it... not all the time though.

this week im going to start im and see if theres a difference from now till show time

 

[martinopr]

i read this myself about the iv also, it was a older doc i belive who was advocating this too, it just makes sense, you get you bang for your buck that way, also you will look like you are taking something else, are you gona go to the gym in long sleeves???lol who gives a fuck GET HUGE any means necesary!!!

 

[swole27]

You gonna post some before pics?

 

[dreww]

i dont think i'd purposely mainline anything.