Question regarding Trest, Test, DHT & SHBG

[EMW14]

In reading up on Trestolone, I came across an explanation for why it's so powerful and also why it seems to enhance male sexual function that said this is because it does not convert to DHT and does not bind to SHBG.

I think I understand that because it doesn't bind to SHBG it therefore increases free testosterone - even though this isn't testosterone. Am I getting this right? Not so sure this makes sense. Maybe it creates free trestolone which acts a lot like testosterone?

The other thing that I'm confused about is that I thought DHT is what makes men "men". And that this is why Masteron is known to increase sexual function, because it is DHT based. So how is it that Trest accomplishes this when it does not convert to DHT?

Also, Trest is a 19-nor steroid like deca and tren. I guess I assumed that the action of 19-nor steroids are all similar, so I'm pretty confused bout how Trest has such a different effect than Deca or Tren. Why Deca dick but no Trest dick?

Any of you who has a handle on this, please enlighten me.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Trest is a 7 a methyl. That is the game changer.
Masteron binds to sbhg frees more testosterone from it snd tighter to androgen receptors. And is already 5a reduced so does go thru that process either. Or convert to estro.
All of these steroids are backbone of testosterone. It's their functions that chance by alterations of rings and how tight they bind to which receptors.
Trestolone doesn't bind to sbhg has an androgenic nature and binds tight to androgen receptors it converts to a more potent estrogen though 7 a estrogen

Yes it is related to tren and deca as progestins but the 7 a methyl function in the ring gives it a different function

Dht gives us male function and sex drive as well if I am not mistaken it is the part that binds with free testosterone that get to certain receptors. Some men lacking dht do not have malearned functions hence how masterone also helps. On trest it is androgenic like test and dht it's what it doesn't bind to that makes it more and how tight it binds

I can read it all again later I tried to explain better. It's been a while. Someone will prolly help. Patrick Arnold probably has something onine. I always understood his breakdowns of chemistry on steroids and rings with function. Another forum had a sponsor pure oils that used to have it available as acetate. Decanate, and phenylprop. Trest was also over counter as an oral until ban it's precursor mentdione and in active form.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Put this on gottren questions and answers thread

 

[Muscle mechanic]

The thing about it is trest at 50 mg a day is as strong as tren and test together. It will make u grow like on a bunch of gear.
I never used it in am afraid of sides and lack of research on long term use. The sides I get from mast and or tren is high bp and aggression. I get irritable from high androgenic nature. From what I have understood trest share same affect. So I myself am staying clear of it. For sex drive and growth in have been safe with testosterone anywhere from 500mg to 1000 mg per week with even an extra compound. My magic # is 750 testosterone alone or with no more than 300 to 400 of mast or deca. When my testosterone is at 600 week or more sex drive thru roof and I only pin 2 times a week.
I have done this for 20 years and only problem I have is trt of coarse. And hugh rbc that I see about..I have no desire to have to pin daily for trest unless I would want to grow but too many things already have yielded results.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

From my experience over the last 20 years I would not recommend trest to anyone because I have never used myself.
From experience of gear use I recommend only testosterone 500 week for anyone already willing to tread into deeper waters.
As far as trt and increases male function and dht I would still recommend more testosterone or adding masteron or proviron.
I think masteron helps at even 150 a week for that effect. The thing about trest is it can cause sides like being on 1 gram of testosterone with 750 of tren or deca. I would be very cautious and leary of trest

 

[EMW14]

Funny that you say trest has potential for tren like sides plus test sides. I had the impression that it much lower sides than tren despite being highly anabolic. The fact that it doesn't have prostate enlargement or other DHT sides makes it attractive also.

I also don't like the idea of being a pin cushion due to short ester, but am still interested in trying it.

I did just order some mast prop to give that a try. I figure the short ester will clear quickly amd hopefully any unpleasant sides that may come up along with it. If I like it I'll probably go for some mast prop.

But, if I can find trest from a legit source, I will probably try it. Also in short ester for the same reasons. And again, if I like it, look for a longer ester version, though this seems rare at best.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Funny that you say trest has potential for tren like sides plus test sides. I had the impression that it much lower sides than tren despite being highly anabolic. The fact that it doesn't have prostate enlargement or other DHT sides makes it attractive also.

I also don't like the idea of being a pin cushion due to short ester, but am still interested in trying it.

I did just order some mast prop to give that a try. I figure the short ester will clear quickly amd hopefully any unpleasant sides that may come up along with it. If I like it I'll probably go for some mast prop.

But, if I can find trest from a legit source, I will probably try it. Also in short ester for the same reasons. And again, if I like it, look for a longer ester version, though this seems rare at best.

What I mean by sides is high bp and aggression with irritabilty. Those are only sides I get from tren and they are more than enough oh and anxiety from the bp light headedness from snapping for the simplest things.
The side of test is sex drive and being able to do it till I am raw and still want more and ready again in an hour.
I am take caution because of my bp issue I get on tren and aggression. I may try though.
If u wanting it for the drive and short term I am sure it would be ok though. Lol! I don't see it much though available.
The sides I speak of from tren is increased agitation and irritable with increases in bp. It gets uncomfortable for me. I have seen a couple guys say it is still there just not the loss of sleep and nights sweats that I don't get from tren anyway.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

One other thing is mast prop clears quickly too. I know guys that have added either mast prop or e. It will not affect blood work for trt in low doses for sure except increase free testosterone