Sarm cycle question

[Optimize38]

Hey brothers, gotta question. I'm gonna run a 6 week sarm cycle including 30mg Osta ED and 15mg Carda ED. Can I run it like this without any PCT? I've read there are little sides but then I see people post they needed a PCT. Need to get this straight before I proceed! Thanks brothers

If a PCT is need could you set up a mock cycle so I can get an idea how to and when to run it.

 

[Optimize38]

I was thinking of using a test booster during cycle?

 

[Presser]

you should be fine without in all honesty

 

[Iron Game]

Your right the information on SARMs and PCT is all over the place. Cardarine (GW) has no hormonal effects, no PCT is required. Ostarine is supposed to be mildly suppressive. Sometimes Ostarine is even used during PCT. So no you shouldn't need to run PCT with these.

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you should be fine without in all honesty

Didn't see you had already responded.

 

[Optimize38]

Thanks brother. I just hate seeing all these conflicting reports from people. Some say no and some say yes. Confusing for a 1st timer!

 

[Optimize38]

[h=3]Thinking of taking this while on the cycle: (for Shts and gigs)

Supplement Facts[/h]Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:
Arimistane (99.9% HPLC Verified Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione)
50 mg

Testosterone Amplification Blend:
D-Aspartic Acid (DAA), Fenugreek (50% Fenuside), Eurycoma longfolia
325 mg

Liver Enzyme Regulation Matrix:
NAC (n-Acetyl-Cysteine), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Vitamin C
175 mg

Prostate Shield:
Saw Palmetto, Pygeum Africanum Bark Extract, Stinging Nettle, Lycopene, Lycopene, Selenium
180 mg

Cardiovascular Support:
Red Yeast Rice, CoQ10
100 mg

 

[Iron Game]

I like and take many of the individual supplements listed but I don't usually trust a All-In-One products in general. I also don't like they don't have the individual mg per supplement. For instance, how much CoQ10? I would decide which supplement your looking for and for what. Look for a product that supports just what you are looking to accomplish.

 

[Optimize38]

Good point.

 

[Optimize38]

Ivw need reading up on people's experiences with Ostarine and I've read quite a few that have had gyno problems?! Really doesn't make sense. Any have a clue to what's up with that?

 

[bigdaddyo1617]

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[Muscle mechanic]

[h=3]Thinking of taking this while on the cycle: (for Shts and gigs)

Supplement Facts[/h]Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:
Arimistane (99.9% HPLC Verified Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione)
50 mg

Testosterone Amplification Blend:
D-Aspartic Acid (DAA), Fenugreek (50% Fenuside), Eurycoma longfolia
325 mg

Liver Enzyme Regulation Matrix:
NAC (n-Acetyl-Cysteine), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Vitamin C
175 mg

Prostate Shield:
Saw Palmetto, Pygeum Africanum Bark Extract, Stinging Nettle, Lycopene, Lycopene, Selenium
180 mg

Cardiovascular Support:
Red Yeast Rice, CoQ10
100 mg

Who makes the this one? The arimistane is good for helping estro ratio. I take it alot. Nettle root good for sbhg but won't be a problem but will help boost your free test.
I am on trt and I would take the one u got there though.
Improve ratios and make more test available in blood.
I use some of these time to time. But iron game has a point. And red yeast rice is hard on u. It is designed to take with superdrol things like that. The coq10 has to be taken with red yeast because it drains it from your body but red yeast is to help lipids.

On your question of sarms. Osta should only be used at 12.5 during pct. It's not suppressive at that dose.
Anything over 25 is. It's not conflicting it's that if u using it alone like u are, and u not suppressed at all from anything previous, then osta even at 25 for 4 weeks won't stop your production completely.
But at 8 weeks will lower it enough that I would add Nolva at 20 mg a day for 3 weeks.
And again if osta is taken at full dose and a cycle is desired not long after then the pct should come into play to get recovery as fast as possible so that cycle can happen securing u recovered.
It's not that conflicting it's that osta is used by different people in different areas of their recovery. Osta is well more versatile than steroids but osta can hinder your recovery. It all depends.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Ivw need reading up on people's experiences with Ostarine and I've read quite a few that have had gyno problems?! Really doesn't make sense. Any have a clue to what's up with that?

It makes plenty of sense! Osta is suppressive especially at 25mg for 6-8 weeks. When u suppress testosterone you get left with higher estrogen. Because osta reacts with androgen more anabolic it's can still cause body to react maybe with estro response.
Osta doesn't aromatase but our body trys to balance our hormones and lower testosterone to estro ratio after a cycle with anything is most dangerous time for gyno especially in people prone and who had puberty gyno.
So can osta give u gyno? No! But anybody can get gyno if their testosterone is too low ratio to estrogen!

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I would have some Nolva on hand. And consider using it 40 mg first week then 20 for 2 more weeks.

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After cycle with osta of coarse

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Thanks brother. I just hate seeing all these conflicting reports from people. Some say no and some say yes. Confusing for a 1st timer!

The conflicts also are from some people who always cycle steroids and wanna ensure recovery. Studies have shown osta will put u in lower Ranges at 12.5 a day but after cycle 12.5 won't hurt because with steroids u are under 0-50 after cycle. Then osta doesn't affect LH, and FSH, at that 12.5 dose. So I still will recover during pct at 12.5.
The best way in my opinion for a guy not on trt to cycle osta would be to use it at full dose then at 12.5 during 2 weeks of pct with Nolva small dose and a 50 mg dose of clomid the first week or two.

So Nolva 40 day 1week 20 a day 2 weeks with osta at 12.5
OR
Clomid 50 a 1week Nolva 20 all 3 weeks
Then will stop bad estro ratio to test. It will give signal to stimulate testes and the 12.5 will help u hold your gains for 2 weeks into pct.

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