Started low dose var and igf

[Lil Lifter]

Hey ladies! I'm excited to tell you that about two weeks ago I started low dose of var daily as well as IGF (30mcgs) on training days. Im starting to get some acne and some joint pain. Have any of you experienced either or both? Any recommendations? Thanks yall!

 

[SilkQuads]

Acne, yes...thank God not on my face. Sorry, I don't have any advice for ya other than keep the area clean which I'm sure you're already doing. Well, tanning helps so maybe you could try that. Just gotta ask yourself what do you want more and it'll make it all worth it. That's what I tell myself anyway. It does get better but you got to be patient....easier said thn done...I know, trust me. Welcome to the club btw

 

[SilkQuads]

Oh and i don't have any joint pain so maybe someone else can help ya there. Back to that acne. I clean my problem areas several times a day, but when it starts to get better I get lazy and just clean it when I shower....that's when it starts to return so learn from my mistakes and keep cleaning it even when it looks like it's going away....Good luck and hang in there.

 

[Lil Lifter]

Acne, yes...thank God not on my face. Sorry, I don't have any advice for ya other than keep the area clean which I'm sure you're already doing. Well, tanning helps so maybe you could try that. Just gotta ask yourself what do you want more and it'll make it all worth it. That's what I tell myself anyway. It does get better but you got to be patient....easier said thn done...I know, trust me. Welcome to the club btw

Thanks Silk! Nice to be part of the club now!
It's nice to know that I'm not the only one with this issue. It seems to be clearing up some, they got decent sized. Hoping that now that im getting used to it that it'll subside and stop. lol that would be nice.

I'll keep you posted. Thanks again!

 

[Lil Lifter]

Oh and i don't have any joint pain so maybe someone else can help ya there. Back to that acne. I clean my problem areas several times a day, but when it starts to get better I get lazy and just clean it when I shower....that's when it starts to return so learn from my mistakes and keep cleaning it even when it looks like it's going away....Good luck and hang in there.

Hopefully someone else will be able to offer some input on this joint issue. Kind of frustrating. Especially when it's mostlu your ankles. ughh. I'm dealing, just would love to see if there is something I can do to make it go away.

Oh yeah, I am cleaning those acne areas well and putting some ointment I found that is supposed to kill them.

Thanks Silk I am most definately hangin!

 

[The Dude]

Hopefully someone else will be able to offer some input on this joint issue. Kind of frustrating. Especially when it's mostlu your ankles. ughh. I'm dealing, just would love to see if there is something I can do to make it go away.

Oh yeah, I am cleaning those acne areas well and putting some ointment I found that is supposed to kill them.

Thanks Silk I am most definately hangin!

Anavar does not cause joint pain. Very frequently Winstrol is substituted for Anavar. Winstrol can give women joint pain similiar to rheumatoid arthritis.

 

[Midwest Muscle]

I agree with Dude, never heard of anavar causing joint pain.

 

[Sammy421]

ive done a cycle of anavar and igf as well for about 8 weeks...what a great combo for someone staying away for test based stuff...once i find a decent price for anavar i will be doing this again hopefully some time over the summer

 

[SilkQuads]

So have you noticed anything yet? How do you feel? Update plzzzz....I just wanna know how my competition is doing for the weak body part contest. LOL Seriously, just curious if you're liking the results so far.

 

[Lil Lifter]

I have never had joint issues with Anavar Lil Lifter, what is your current dose? I get acne but honestly couldn't tell you what in my stack is causing it, tanning will help, also make sure you wash your face or any area frequently and change out of sweatly clothes immediately after the gym to avoid back acne. Sometimes it just goes with the territory, just do not pick or you could scar, I had that problem. I love Osteobiflex Triple Strength, and I also take 2 alleve daily. This helps me tremendously. Also if you use makeup brushes wash them every other day, I know it is a pain in the ass but you would not believe the crap that builds up on them, I know that has contributed to my acne in the past.

Thanks Jenn for your input. I am on 5mg var ed. Pretty much as low as I can go. Acne seems to be under control for now (knock on wood) lol Considering increasing to 10 since acne under control. I will keep that Osteobiflex Triple Strength in mind. I have increased some supps to help with liver and joints. Hubby and I think we have the joint issue narrowed down to uric acid build up which normally is a symptom of gout. But have way upped my intake of water and couple other things which seem to be helping. Now gotta get rid of the swelling and all the soreness. Started taking ibuprofen for that. Aleve may be easier since you take every 12 hrs.

So we are figuring it out and adjusting things as necessary. New to me and all so...

Thanks again for everyone's input!

 

[Lil Lifter]

300 mg of milk thistle per day to aid your liver. 5mg is a super low dose, I wonder if it had anything to do with your acne or not. I never went that low so perhaps it does. Are your ankles still swollen?

Yea my husband had me add that and also celery seed extract and TUDCA. It's in one of the extra supps I have added. Well I actually started on 10mg ed and then went down when acne started. So who knows, maybe my body needed time to adjust to it...never know. Yes...ughh Ankles are still swollen, and one of my knees. They are elevated as I type. Really tired of wearing flats... Ready to get my high heels back on!! LOL

 

[Lil Lifter]

So have you noticed anything yet? How do you feel? Update plzzzz....I just wanna know how my competition is doing for the weak body part contest. LOL Seriously, just curious if you're liking the results so far.

Yea...I have noticed some increase in strength for sure...even on such a low dose. But again, Im a lil lady so think that's why. I think my muscles are looking fuller. My two favorite movements (squats and deadlifts) are kind of rough on me right now due to my crappy ankles and knee. So..yea for sure difference. When I get this swollen ankles/knee issue resolved I will be a happy girl! Been on now for 3 weeks.

 

[Lil Lifter]

Am considering going back up to 10mg ed of var since acne seems to be under control. (kow) What do yall think about adding 5-10 mg ed of nolva-bloat? Or should I wait until I get the uric acid thing (aka shitty ankles/knee) under control before tweaking anything?

 

[SilkQuads]

Am considering going back up to 10mg ed of var since acne seems to be under control. (kow) What do yall think about adding 5-10 mg ed of nolva-bloat? Or should I wait until I get the uric acid thing (aka shitty ankles/knee) under control before tweaking anything?

With what your taking I dont think Nolvabloat would make a huge difference at this point. I use it when I want to look my best like for a special occassion. As for the Anavar, the symptoms you're describing is exactly why The Dude wont let me take Winstrol. I mean exactly. Sounds like it might not be Anavar because it's NEVER caused me joint pain. Have your hubby PM The Dude as to who he got it from. Sounds like Winstrol. Are your joints stiff?

 

[Lil Lifter]

With what your taking I dont think Nolvabloat would make a huge difference at this point. I use it when I want to look my best like for a special occassion. As for the Anavar, the symptoms you're describing is exactly why The Dude wont let me take Winstrol. I mean exactly. Sounds like it might not be Anavar because it's NEVER caused me joint pain. Have your hubby PM The Dude as to who he got it from. Sounds like Winstrol. Are your joints stiff?

No they arent stiff. Just one knee and both ankles are sore and swollen. I have to say the last couple of days...they have really come around. Much much better!!!! i really think the extra water i am taking in and additional supps are really helping!! My hubby got some winny for himself to try later with the same order its clearly not the same. I will have hubby PM The Dude about the source.

Lookin up tho. Yay!! No pain today really to speak of. And swelling waayyy down.

Btw.....love your avatar! Freakin hot girl!!

 

[SilkQuads]

Good, hope it was just a fluke or something, but still keep an eye on it. I'd hate for it to cause more harm than good.

Thnx...that pic was taken last July when my hubby did his show. Like I said before I don't compete, I just diet for everyone else's shows...crazy I know. I'm excited to see what I will look like when I lean down and can tan cuz I've put on quite a bit of size since that pic was taken.

 

[Lil Lifter]

Hey yall! I havent been on in a few days but wanted to let you all know how things are going. Well over approximately the past 5 weeks I have gained about 5-6 lbs. My weights that I am lifting are still increasing. I have increased var to 15mg ad. Good stuff. My ankles still have some mild swelling and a few joints aching but not anywhere near what i had a few weeks ago. Still training hard. Feelin pretty strong! LOL

 

[Lil Lifter]

Great to hear Lil Lifter! How long do you plan on running the var and how high of a dose would you go? Just my two cents here but no need to go higher than 25mg ed for you.

Im thinking that I will see how the 15mg ad goes another week and if goes well then was thinking of going up to 20mg ad max for another couple weeks. Total time like 7-8 weeks. Thoughts??

 

[Jenn]

I'm sorry I took so long! I swear I am already losing my mind! I think doing it for 8 weeks is totally fine, however if the 15 is working good I see no need to up it. I like to advise starting low and seeing if you need to go higher, this is from learning from my own stupid mistakes. So if you're feeling good at 15 then stay there. What dose did you start at, I couldn't see that info below?

 

[Lil Lifter]

Thanks Jenn! Girl you are fine... you have LOTS going on right now!! I would probably be losing my mind if I was attempting to do what you are!! LOL!! You, my dear, are handling yourself amazingly well!!

Yea...I started really low (5mg ad). Too low! I think I may go up to 20mg ad for last 2weeks and see how it goes. I have no plans to go higher than that. We will see. Thanks again Jen!