Starting a PH cycle in 7 days! Tell me what you think and watch my progress.

[The Scientist]

Hello all. For starters I am 22 y/o 193 lb 5'10''. Have been lifting religiously 5-6 times a week for 6 months now. I have worked out on an off for the last 2 years.

Cycle will contain

Epistane (2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallcholanol) ( Vital Labs EPI 2A 3A ) 10mg capsules
Halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol) ( Vital Labs Halo-V) 25mg capsules
Ultradrol (methyl sten) (2 17a-dimethyl-5a-androsta-1en-17b-ol-3-one) (Anabolic Technologies Xtreme Mass) 6mg capsules

Cycle support

Taurine (3g a day)
Vital Labs Protex which contains the following:
Milk Thistle - 300 mg
N-Acetyl cysteine (NAC) 125 mg
alpha lipoic acid 125 mg
selenium 50 mcg

Post Cycle Therapy

RUI Liquid Clomi (Clomid) 70mL 35mg/ml

Wicked pct by Anabolic Androgenic Research which contains:
Estro-Plexx (estrogen/anti aromatase Modulator) 275mg
-6-bromoandrostenedione
- (indole-3-Carbinol)
-Armisrane-(Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione)
MAXX- TEST MATRIX:
(Anabolic/Testosterone boosting mega complex) Tribulus alatus extract - 300mg
Fadogia Agrestis - 500mg Fenugreek Seed Extract - 250mg (Trigonella foenum-graecum) (standardized to 50% fenusides) Indonesian Tongkat Ali Root 100 to 1 - 100mg
5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin - 50mg Bioperine - 20mg Vitamin B6 - 25mg Vitamin D3 - 500iu Zinc (aspartate) - 15mg


Cycle Schedule

Just started today taking Vital Labs Protex with 3g of Taurine and will continue this throughout the cycle.

Will begin Epi Friday September 12th 2014 at 10mg dosing for 5 days.

Wednesday September 17th will move to 20mg dosing of Epi and will continue 20mg dosing through cycle.

Monday September 22nd will begin my stack by adding 25mg Vital Labs Halo-V and 6mg Anabolic Technologies Xtreme Mass and will continue this dosing for 1 week.

Monday September 29th will move to 50mg Vital Labs Halo-V and 12mg Anabolic Technologies Xtreme Mass and will continue this for 2 weeks which will conclude my cycle.

Monday October 14th will be my first day off of all PH and will begin PCT starting with a dose of 150mg of liquid clomid and AAR Wicked PCT 3 capsules a day.

Tuesday October 15th - Tuesday October 22nd I will use liquid clomid at 125mg a day and 3 capsules of AAR Wicked PCT

Tuesday October 22nd to October 29th I will use liquid clomid at 100mg a day and two capsules of AAR Wicked PCT

I will then continue clomid at a 75mg and 50 mg dose as need for the next two weeks along with Wicked PCT.

 

[IronJulius]

do 1 ph so you know how your body reacts. you have done the research so im sure you have heard that before but if you are going to be hard headed start epi and hdrol and run for 6 weeks do msten the last 4 weeks

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epi 30mg the first 2 weeks then up to 40 if needed and hdrol 75mg the first 2 weeks and you should be able to keep it there all 6 weeks. msten start off with 12mg a few days up it to 16mg the rest of cycle if needed go to 20mg the last week

 

[Presser]

Welcome to MC bro! I'm going to move ur thread to the proper forum

 

[The Scientist]

I was going to run Epi for 5weeks with the last 3 stacked with Hdrol and msten. I hear msten and hdrol have pretty bad sides after 3 weeks and you dont get that many results after 3 weeks unlike the Epi.

And isnt what you are suggesting a lot harsher for me than the cycle I am proposing?

How does my PCT look? Should I add anything?
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Thanks!

 

[fstr03svtcobra]

I'd listen to Julius if I were you, or not take anything. I'm not sure what your goals are, but you can get a lot more out of your body naturally. This is just a perceived shortcut on your part. You may gain 10 lbs , but you could do that in 3 months naturally and pretty clean too. Think about it this way. You're going to have 6 weeks of great training followed by at least a month of shitty training. If you gained .25 lbs a week naturally that's the same thing over the same time period.

 

[fstr03svtcobra]

I'd listen to Julius if I were you, or not take anything. I'm not sure what your goals are, but you can get a lot more out of your body naturally. This is just a perceived shortcut on your part. You may gain 10 lbs , but you could do that in 3 months naturally and pretty clean too. Think about it this way. You're going to have 6 weeks of great training followed by at least a month of shitty training. If you gained .25 lbs a week naturally that's the same thing over the same time period.

What are your goals, what's your diet like? I'm on a phone and can't figure out how to upload a pic, but I have one from when I was 20 years old, obviously 100% natty and weighing 205 at 5'9. You have a long way you can go man and most of the guys you see using this stuff don't come off. I can't imagine riding that roller coaster.

 

[The Scientist]

Alright well I kind of took his advice. I am going to run halodrol at 50mg for a week or two and hn 75 mgs.

 

[Omar924]

For what its worth, I would have an AI on hand. If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react to the hormones. Like mentioned before, just pick one and see how your body handles it. My very first cycle of anything was epi a few months ago and it was great. My pct was great. But two weeks after my pct I started to get puffy nips. I needed to run an ai in my third week of pct and continue 2 weeks past my serm. Live and learn. Now I know Im gyno prone and to always have an AI in hand. Just my .02 cents.

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For what its worth, I would have an AI on hand. If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react to the hormones. Like mentioned before, just pick one and see how your body handles it. My very first cycle of anything was epi a few months ago and it was great. My pct was great. But two weeks after my pct I started to get puffy nips. I needed to run an ai in my third week of pct and continue 2 weeks past my serm. Live and learn. Now I know Im gyno prone and to always have an AI in hand. Just my .02 cents.

 

[Presser]

For what its worth, I would have an AI on hand. If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react to the hormones. Like mentioned before, just pick one and see how your body handles it. My very first cycle of anything was epi a few months ago and it was great. My pct was great. But two weeks after my pct I started to get puffy nips. I needed to run an ai in my third week of pct and continue 2 weeks past my serm. Live and learn. Now I know Im gyno prone and to always have an AI in hand. Just my .02 cents.

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For what its worth, I would have an AI on hand. If this is your first cycle, you have no idea how your body is going to react to the hormones. Like mentioned before, just pick one and see how your body handles it. My very first cycle of anything was epi a few months ago and it was great. My pct was great. But two weeks after my pct I started to get puffy nips. I needed to run an ai in my third week of pct and continue 2 weeks past my serm. Live and learn. Now I know Im gyno prone and to always have an AI in hand. Just my .02 cents.

truth is I know and have heard of more guys getting gyno from pro homornes than steroids, so great advice there Omar!