Suggestions on next cycle

[d12hazz]

I'm just starting a cruise dose of 300 mg of test prop a week. I did my pct after first shoulder surgery, which i came off a 3 month cruise dose of 300 mg of test prop. I had my second shoulder surgery and wish i never stopped the cruise dose. It helped tremendously with the soreness after therapy.
My plan it to run 300 mg a week for the next 2 months until i can start lifting weights again. I wanted to run a test prop/tren/whinny cycle but too scared of the tren. My thoughts are to run a test prop/mast/dbol cycle. Can any one suggest dosage and length. Should i throw in whinny instead of dbol? Have about 8 - 10 cycles under my belt. I'm 6'-2" 215 lbs 10% bf. I won't be able to lift heavy again cause of both rotator cuff surgeries. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.

 

[DsgrntldBarbell]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this upcoming cycle? Your goals will dictate the type of compounds you use in your next cycle. At least that is how I approach cycling.

 

[danieljk91]

Whinny you'd use MOSTLY for cutting from what I understand (although it can be used for bulking and cutting) and dbol I would think is absolutely a bulking agent... so I'm not sure substituting dbol for whinny would accomplish the same thing.

 

[Masher59]

10 weeks.

1-4 Tren A 75mg/Test P 75mg EOD You could bump these to 100mg each if you feel froggy.
Anadrol 100mg ED 50mg when you wake up 50mg when you go to sleep.

5-10 Just drop the Anadrol and continue on with the Tren and Test.

PCT

You can toss in IGF also and some winny at the end if you just have to have it. This is basic but it will yield great results.

 

[danieljk91]

10 weeks.

1-4 Tren A 75mg/Test P 75mg EOD You could bump these to 100mg each if you feel froggy.
Anadrol 100mg ED 50mg when you wake up 50mg when you go to sleep.

5-10 Just drop the Anadrol and continue on with the Tren and Test.

PCT

You can toss in IGF also and some winny at the end if you just have to have it. This is basic but it will yield great results.

Hey masher he says he's scared of the tren though, I'm guessing bc of the anger issues it causes? If op has a short fuse and difficult time controlling anger without it I would tell him to stay away from tren...
If it's NOT bc of that, op... All I hear is that tren is the bomb results-wise lol

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[d12hazz]

I am going to run eq instead of the tren a. I also will run whinny for the first five weeks then drop it and pick it back up the last five weeks. I am going to run the test prop for sixteen weeks. How would i run the eq and a anadrol with this. I've had great results running the whinny this way. Thanks for the input.

 

[danieljk91]

I am going to run eq instead of the tren a. I also will run whinny for the first five weeks then drop it and pick it back up the last five weeks. I am going to run the test prop for sixteen weeks. How would i run the eq and a anadrol with this. I've had great results running the whinny this way. Thanks for the input.

Anadrol I'd run at 50mg for first four weeks (being oral it'll be toxic so you don't want to push it much more than that... 5 weeks if you're feeling crazy. I've also been reading you don't see a big difference upping dosage to 100mg). EQ someone else will have to help you with

 

[freight train]

Run the eq at 2 cc a week spaced evenly like mon an Thursday

 

[Masher59]

Anadrol I'd run at 50mg for first four weeks (being oral it'll be toxic so you don't want to push it much more than that... 5 weeks if you're feeling crazy. I've also been reading you don't see a big difference upping dosage to 100mg). EQ someone else will have to help you with

The only reason I recommended 100mg of drol is that almost all of it is underdosed these days.

 

[danieljk91]

Hey masher, I wasn't trying to bash you at all, I think I'd just read a discussion about 50 being as effective as 100... I don't doubt a good majority of it is underdosed

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[Mountain_Man]

dont run the whinny esp after shoulder surgery its hard on tendons and joints u should hear my knees at th gym when i squat im runing 100 mg ed

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The only reason I recommended 100mg of drol is that almost all of it is underdosed these days.

amen to that brother i have had to run 200 mg ed of a certain brand to gain any weight

 

[danieljk91]

Hey mountain man, have you used psl drol? If so how's that dosed would you recommend 50ed or more.. They give you more than enough for the first 4 weeks

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[d12hazz]

dont run the whinny esp after shoulder surgery its hard on tendons and joints u should hear my knees at th gym when i squat im runing 100 mg ed

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Damn brother........ i totally did think of that! Good looking out brother. Can't believe i didn't think of that. Definitely not running the whinny.

 

[Presser]

yeah winny might not be a great choice post surgery

 

[EMW14]

Here's something else to consider: muscles gain strength much faster than tendons even without gear. On gear, you will quickly get much stronger than your tendons can handle. Igf-1 will definitely help your tendons to heal, and if you are careful you'll have a great result. I've had rotater cuff repair on both my shoulders, including a full thickness tear which required two fasterners in my humerous bone to reattach it. This was 6 or 7 years ago now, and I still increase weight slowly on bench and shoulder exercises and pay close attention to how my shoulders feel, but don't have any issues from the surgery.

 

[d12hazz]

Here's something else to consider: muscles gain strength much faster than tendons even without gear. On gear, you will quickly get much stronger than your tendons can handle. Igf-1 will definitely help your tendons to heal, and if you are careful you'll have a great result. I've had rotater cuff repair on both my shoulders, including a full thickness tear which required two fasterners in my humerous bone to reattach it. This was 6 or 7 years ago now, and I still increase weight slowly on bench and shoulder exercises and pay close attention to how my shoulders feel, but don't have any issues from the surgery.

Your definitely right about taking it slow. I had 3 anchors in each of my shoulders, they were completely torn. I am taking IGF along with bpc-157 and tb-500. They all work tremendously together. I started back with a test prop dose 300 mg a week and has help great with the soreness after therapy.