Test E,Tren A, Drol

[Stunt201a]

21 Years old
165lbs
5'10
Been cycling since 16 years old

Planning on running a super mass cycle .

Test E - 1000mg 1-8wks
Tren A- 75mg eod 1-6wks
Anadrol - 50,100,150,150,100,50

pct starting week 9, nolva - 40/30/20 . clomid - 100/50/50

HCG if must ; wks 1-8 .. 300-500iu e5d

*IS THERE ANYTHING I SHOULD EXCHANGE IN MY CYCLE , THROW IN/THROW OUT ?*

 

[bigghorn]

Are you serious ? At your age I'd stay low a dose "if any" due to your natural body swimming in hormones unless they have been lost since age 16.. You worry me but to each there own..Some great PH out there I'd sure try first but then again that's me..welcome to Mc btw !

 

[Stunt201a]

Well i seem not to grow on low dosages anymore , if im in the 500-600mg for test it doesnt seem to do the job but when i up my dosage to 800-1000 it gives me that bloat and fills me out more .. i see more results with high dosages being that i used low dosages to start off with since i was younger.

 

[irish2003]

overkill...you don't NEED hcg...it's a luxury some enjoy but most don't really need it...also if you're running long estered test, then run long estered tren...or vice versa...in addition you can choose either nolva only or clomid only for pct...you don't need both...what's your cycle history? that's alot of mg's for someone only weighing 165 at 5'10"...you're not even done with your natural growth from eating and heavy lifting...so many things with this are wrong...i guarantee you're undereating AND overtraining both...

 

[Stunt201a]

I will throwout the hcg and clomid then because imo nolvadex is a better path for PCT. ehh underrating can be the answer possibly! I train like a beast but my weight never seems to grow . My cycle history .. ive ran about 4 previous cycles . sus , deca , at mid dosage

 

[nuknuk]

Well i seem not to grow on low dosages anymore , if im in the 500-600mg for test it doesnt seem to do the job but when i up my dosage to 800-1000 it gives me that bloat and fills me out more .. i see more results with high dosages being that i used low dosages to start off with since i was younger.

So your only 21, 5'10 @ 165lbs and you have done some cycles, but say you cant grow. Im about to tell you something you dont want to hear. You Have Been Taking Fake Shit! Find a new source, thats the problem.

 

[Presser]

yeah theirs no such things as I CANT GROW at those doses and your age, you should look like a monster, regardless of genetics. I would also add in winny and change the test e to prop, but thats just me!

 

[Stunt201a]

my gear isnt fake, from a very good source !! ive have blood work just to be proven it wasnt fake. Ive messed up alot of my cycles because of being uneducated at the time and it was very stupid of me to start without doing research. Ive been off for months now and ready to start back up .. planning in october. Btw all the previous cycles ive taken i never used a pct :x !!!

 

[Stunt201a]

prop & winny is for more a cutter i see as . . im looking to bulk because i am only 165lbs . Goal is to be about 180 - 190

 

[Stunt201a]

never used winny thou so i cant really say much !

 

[The Dude]

prop & winny is for more a cutter i see as . . im looking to bulk because i am only 165lbs . Goal is to be about 180 - 190

AAS cause muscle growth. That is all. They don't make you lean or shredded.
All you need is 200mg of test, 4500 calories, and 250g of protein. You will do what you want, but if you take a step back and be honest it obviously isn't working.
There is no one on Earth that weighs 165lbs and won't grow on 200mg of test, 4500 calories, and 250g of protein

So throw out 800mg of test a week, all of the Tren, and all of the Anadrol
Include a solid diet

 

[big in vegas]

If your mind is set on doing something of this magnitude, throw the Tren A out and put EQ in at 600mg and that will also increase your appetite so you'll get more out of this because you'll be eating and I'd be willing to bet that is the biggest neglected factor in your regimen

 

[bigghorn]

Yeah brutha .. You need quality calories and lots of them .. How are your genetics ? Is parents or relatives of a larger stature? I know that you think we are blowin smoke but have you tried lower doses because excessive doseages at your weight and age shut everything down in a negative fashion.. But you probably know this . We r just trying to help so don't take any of us as deceitful cause that's not what MC is about .keep us posted on your advancements.

 

[Stunt201a]

My genetics are great id say , my mother is about 5'7 but built like an OX and my father is 6'3 with a solid built as well. Im half black and white so my genes are mixed aha ! You are right about the calories though.. when i eat i just eat whatever i can find mostly but i do stick with the basics such as brown rice, chicken , veggies, oatmeal , egg whites .. etc. When I first started using gear i was using suggested dosages but then I felt that I wasnt growing off that dosage anymore so I upped it in my other incoming cycles. But i figured id ran dosages from 250mg/wk - 750wk i can go to 1000 and see if i can grow from there with a proper pct and diet .

 

[irish2003]

My genetics are great id say , my mother is about 5'7 but built like an OX and my father is 6'3 with a solid built as well. Im half black and white so my genes are mixed aha ! You are right about the calories though.. when i eat i just eat whatever i can find mostly but i do stick with the basics such as brown rice, chicken , veggies, oatmeal , egg whites .. etc. When I first started using gear i was using suggested dosages but then I felt that I wasnt growing off that dosage anymore so I upped it in my other incoming cycles. But i figured id ran dosages from 250mg/wk - 750wk i can go to 1000 and see if i can grow from there with a proper pct and diet .

as i and others have said...you're undereating and overtraining and wasting gear...

 

[Stunt201a]

well , can somebody help me with a diet and cycle that would fit me best ?

 

[irish2003]

well , can somebody help me with a diet and cycle that would fit me best ?

at your age, frame, etc you might just want to try out DC Training...focusing on big compound movements and getting as strong as you can over the next year...adding 100lbs to bench and 200 each to dead and squat and you're guaranteed gonna be 15-30lbs bigger

 

[Stunt201a]

Hmm okay i might check it out, but i deff wanna do a cycle though .. maybe not that one but something different. Test E & Masteron?

 

[irish2003]

Hmm okay i might check it out, but i deff wanna do a cycle though .. maybe not that one but something different. Test E & Masteron?

just test and a modest average dose...i don't think you've given all the gears you said you've taken a chance to do their job since you were undereating and overtraining or training without enough intensity and wrong exercise selection...

google dc or doggcrapp training and read thoroughly...the program itself you can make tremendous gains without killing your wallet

 

[The Dude]

just test and a modest average dose...i don't think you've given all the gears you said you've taken a chance to do their job since you were undereating and overtraining or training without enough intensity and wrong exercise selection...

google dc or doggcrapp training and read thoroughly...the program itself you can make tremendous gains without killing your wallet

You sound like me when I was 15. That's not a dig as I was a big and strong 15 year old. I started training seriously at 12. I carried tuna and rice EVERYWHERE and ate every 90 minutes. I couldn't get over 160lbs. A buddy that was older (and much bigger) said my diet was ruining my gains. I argued that I wanted to be lean too. Either way I followed what he suggested. I swapped out the tuna and rice for steak, subs, lasagna, bagels, fried chicken, and much higher calorie foods. I gained 20lbs naturally that year.
At your size you need to gain tissue before you will see any benefits from the exotic AAS. I'd stick with test and food.