Thoughts on npp

[Big Beef]

Currently running 30 mg of dbol & 500 mg of sus. I was going to throw in deca originally, so when the dbol is done about week 5 or 6, I would have something else going on along with the sus.

Never ran deca or npp or dbol. Only 3rd cycle. I'm a little over a week into the cycle & currently weighing 241 lbs, so I'm just getting started. Didn't want to run deca, without trying npp first, even though it's not to late to throw in either. Gaining muscle is the goal, but I bulk pretty quickly, which is another reason I didn't add deca this time/yet. Still debating though...

What are your alls thoughts on npp? Like or dislike? How long would you run it? What dosage? What ya think compared to deca?

 

[Maj7900]

Currently running 30 mg of dbol & 500 mg of sus. I was going to throw in deca originally, so when the dbol is done about week 5 or 6, I would have something else going on along with the sus.

Never ran deca or npp or dbol. Only 3rd cycle. I'm a little over a week into the cycle & currently weighing 241 lbs, so I'm just getting started. Didn't want to run deca, without trying npp first, even though it's not to late to throw in either. Gaining muscle is the goal, but I bulk pretty quickly, which is another reason I didn't add deca this time/yet. Still debating though...

What are your alls thoughts on npp? Like or dislike? How long would you run it? What dosage? What ya think compared to deca?

I personally love npp. Its quick acts fast and clears out quick. Has same properties as deca too. It’s great for bulk or cuts. I’m running it now. Front of cycle with Dbol then at 5th week stop Dbol and picked up with whinny in week 7. Npp at 400 and test at 500 with 50mg of whinny. Clean bulk but as you well know it’s all about that diet. But when it comes down to deca vs npp I go with npp mainly because I still cycle and not blast a Cruise. Npp can be ran in short cycles or longer one where deca is best in 14 to 18 week cycles but about the same results really.


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[Big Beef]

I personally love npp. Its quick acts fast and clears out quick. Has same properties as deca too. It’s great for bulk or cuts. I’m running it now. Front of cycle with Dbol then at 5th week stop Dbol and picked up with whinny in week 7. Npp at 400 and test at 500 with 50mg of whinny. Clean bulk but as you well know it’s all about that diet. But when it comes down to deca vs npp I go with npp mainly because I still cycle and not blast a Cruise. Npp can be ran in short cycles or longer one where deca is best in 14 to 18 week cycles but about the same results really.


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Great post! The dosage you are talking about with the npp... is that currently what you would run it at or what you did starting out or both? Another reason I wanted to try npp out first is because of the notorious "deca dick"! I figured if I could get the results without it lingering forever... at least that's my thinking at the moment. I'm assuming either pin it ed or eod?

 

[Maj7900]

I’m running it at 400 through the whole cycle. And deca dick “normally” boils down to two things. Estrogen control and then prolactin build up. I’m not using any cabergoline because my E is kept in check with a DHT and armidex (whinny, mast, proviron) but once you come off with deca it sticks around just like you said and it’s a tougher recovery. I know of guys that will run it solo (I’m not suggesting that at all) and guys that run deca with low test to keep the estrogenic sides at a low. Me I personally like to stick to slightly higher test and keep the numbers the same through the whole cycle.


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[Maj7900]

You can pin it e3d it’s half life is 4 days but some will say 3 days. It’s not an ace so eod pins is not needed but can be done.


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[Big Beef]

I’m running it at 400 through the whole cycle. And deca dick “normally” boils down to two things. Estrogen control and then prolactin build up. I’m not using any cabergoline because my E is kept in check with a DHT and armidex (whinny, mast, proviron) but once you come off with deca it sticks around just like you said and it’s a tougher recovery. I know of guys that will run it solo (I’m not suggesting that at all) and guys that run deca with low test to keep the estrogenic sides at a low. Me I personally like to stick to slightly higher test and keep the numbers the same through the whole cycle.


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I have proviron to throw in, in a few weeks. Also the adex, but I just throw that in only when needed. I have never ran caber & though it sounds like it has some properties like proviron, I didn't know if it would be good enough. I might have to try the npp. Start at 300 & just bump it up if I need to

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You can pin it e3d it’s half life is 4 days but some will say 3 days. It’s not an ace so eod pins is not needed but can be done.


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Right on. Guess I was thinking it was like prop. I do eod with prop

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Btw, with the new set up here on MC, I can't like anyones posts or I would have liked yours for sure. It's good info

 

[Maj7900]

Awesome dude.


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[yellow snow]

Provirion and caber do not work the same way. I alway have caber on hand when running anything that effect prolactin like deca or espcially tren!!

I like to run npp EOD, but that is just me E3d will work too.

 

[Maj7900]

Provirion and caber do not work the same way. I alway have caber on hand when running anything that effect prolactin like deca or espcially tren!!

I like to run npp EOD, but that is just me E3d will work too.

Good point. Hope I didn’t make it sound they was. I keep both on hand. I try to keep the AI as low as possible so I use proviron for that.


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[Big Beef]

Provirion and caber do not work the same way. I alway have caber on hand when running anything that effect prolactin like deca or espcially tren!!

I like to run npp EOD, but that is just me E3d will work too.

I will keep that in mind & see what my options are, before I run npp or deca. I had actually did some more research on caber since this post. Sounds like nothing fights prolactin like caber. I think I know a couple places I seen it at. Pretty pricey, but I'm sure it's worth it

 

[yellow snow]

I will keep that in mind & see what my options are, before I run npp or deca. I had actually did some more research on caber since this post. Sounds like nothing fights prolactin like caber. I think I know a couple places I seen it at. Pretty pricey, but I'm sure it's worth it

If you have an option, get it in capsule form it is nortoriously hard to dose/disolve in liquid!!

 

[Big Beef]

If you have an option, get it in capsule form it is nortoriously hard to dose/disolve in liquid!!

Funny you mentioned that. I found a liquid caber after looking into it. They been a good source always, on everything else. You think it's not a good idea? Maybe I misunderstood ya...

 

[pgb]

npp and deca are both great. i usually use deca because it does stay in my system longer. npp goes really fast and the effect wears off really quick on me. npp gives me deca dick a lot worse as well. i can run deca without it bothering me much.
the only way to find out how they will react for you is to run them. i suggest running npp first though, since it is the shorter ester. it will clear your system quickly, which is a plus if you run into problems using it.
i like to run short esters of products i haven't used yet for that very reason.
the longer esters change things a little and some people can do a short ester, but not the long of certain products. i know it's weird, but due to each person's own particular make-up, it will vary. i can't take proviron, because it gives me flu like symptoms. supper runny nose and watery eyes.

you could start your npp as a kick off, for deca. i think you'll like both, and not everyone gets the dreaded deca dick, lol.

 

[Big Beef]

npp and deca are both great. i usually use deca because it does stay in my system longer. npp goes really fast and the effect wears off really quick on me. npp gives me deca dick a lot worse as well. i can run deca without it bothering me much.
the only way to find out how they will react for you is to run them. i suggest running npp first though, since it is the shorter ester. it will clear your system quickly, which is a plus if you run into problems using it.
i like to run short esters of products i haven't used yet for that very reason.
the longer esters change things a little and some people can do a short ester, but not the long of certain products. i know it's weird, but due to each person's own particular make-up, it will vary. i can't take proviron, because it gives me flu like symptoms. supper runny nose and watery eyes.

you could start your npp as a kick off, for deca. i think you'll like both, and not everyone gets the dreaded deca dick, lol.

It seems that is one of the truest sayings when speaking about sups, gear, peptides or anything along those lines... everyone is different! You are right about that for sure. Deca dick during the cycle is not really the biggest concern I have with running deca. It's the shut down afterwards & all the reviews of guys I seen that couldn't get it started back up... shit makes me nervous! Not whining though. Just looking at all my options & assessing the risks of both. Can't remember if I mentioned this already, but I ran tren last cycle & it was rough getting started back up! Now, I'm just giving the 19 nors the respect they deserve & being very careful with them

 

[pgb]

It seems that is one of the truest sayings when speaking about sups, gear, peptides or anything along those lines... everyone is different! You are right about that for sure. Deca dick during the cycle is not really the biggest concern I have with running deca. It's the shut down afterwards & all the reviews of guys I seen that couldn't get it started back up... shit makes me nervous! Not whining though. Just looking at all my options & assessing the risks of both. Can't remember if I mentioned this already, but I ran tren last cycle & it was rough getting started back up! Now, I'm just giving the 19 nors the respect they deserve & being very careful with them

yeah i know, i've heard about the shutdown being harder with some of the steroids. as for me, i started steroids solely because of low-t. so i stay on trt as much as possible. i have to go off here soon though, so i can be tested and hopefully be put on trt from the va. i tried to go off all steroids a couple times since i started a year and a half ago, but having no test at all was horrendously horrible for me. so, i'll be switching to prop and npp until i stop for the test. if i go off steroids all together, i know i will not be able to produce my own sufficiently enough not to have problems. i was at 200 ng/ml of testosterone when i started my own trt program.
i wish you the best of luck with it. how have you been in the past with pct and getting back to producing your own. i read a thread here about a peptide that can jump start your natural testosterone production. i do not know how good it would be, but it may be worth looking into. i think it was gnrh (triptorelin) peptide.

 

[yellow snow]

Funny you mentioned that. I found a liquid caber after looking into it. They been a good source always, on everything else. You think it's not a good idea? Maybe I misunderstood ya...

From my experience it is not that the product is not quality it is a very difficult process to get caber to suspend in liquid ( over dose, under dose issues)..........quality source or not I would always try to get this in capsule form if possible. Caber also has a long half life if I remember correctly so if you over dose it, it is not easily fixable.

 

[Big Beef]

From my experience it is not that the product is not quality it is a very difficult process to get caber to suspend in liquid ( over dose, under dose issues)..........quality source or not I would always try to get this in capsule form if possible. Caber also has a long half life if I remember correctly so if you over dose it, it is not easily fixable.

That makes sense & is good to know. I will need to check some other sources & make the best choice I can. Been researching quite a bit lately, so I haven't got as much info as I needed on caber yet. Curious as to what the side effects of over dosing caber are..

 

[Big Beef]

yeah i know, i've heard about the shutdown being harder with some of the steroids. as for me, i started steroids solely because of low-t. so i stay on trt as much as possible. i have to go off here soon though, so i can be tested and hopefully be put on trt from the va. i tried to go off all steroids a couple times since i started a year and a half ago, but having no test at all was horrendously horrible for me. so, i'll be switching to prop and npp until i stop for the test. if i go off steroids all together, i know i will not be able to produce my own sufficiently enough not to have problems. i was at 200 ng/ml of testosterone when i started my own trt program.
i wish you the best of luck with it. how have you been in the past with pct and getting back to producing your own. i read a thread here about a peptide that can jump start your natural testosterone production. i do not know how good it would be, but it may be worth looking into. i think it was gnrh (triptorelin) peptide.

Thanks bro. Sounds like deca would be a perfect choice for you & guys that are on trt. Though I am not there yet, I'm sure trt makes guys that need it feel much better. Glad you got something going on for ya. As far as how I restarted my last cycle... I think I made a CLOSE to full recovery, though I don't have the bloodwork to prove it. Honestly, my nuts don't feel quite as big as they were, but they're close. Sex drive & all that seemed to come back pretty good. Just don't want to get to risky. I don't think a short run off npp would be to much though

 

[pgb]

Thanks bro. Sounds like deca would be a perfect choice for you & guys that are on trt. Though I am not there yet, I'm sure trt makes guys that need it feel much better. Glad you got something going on for ya. As far as how I restarted my last cycle... I think I made a CLOSE to full recovery, though I don't have the bloodwork to prove it. Honestly, my nuts don't feel quite as big as they were, but they're close. Sex drive & all that seemed to come back pretty good. Just don't want to get to risky. I don't think a short run off npp would be to much though

quite welcome, npp will sure let you know pretty quick and will clear your system quick as well. my sex drive has never suffered, but my ability to do something sometimes has, lol. being older doesn't help either. my nuts come and go even on trt. they have never come back to the bag i was banging around before though, lol. certainly don't miss that, banging it around, lmao. i tried hcg and that made them come back pretty darn well. problem is, i'm allergic to hcg. broke out in hives.

 

[pgb]

i had worse problem with getting hard on eq. eq messed me up bad and it stays with you. took me a good month and a half to recover somewhat. gave me painful joints as well, especially my knees.