When is the right age to use hgh for bodybuilding?

[Dianabolman]

I'm not yet sure I want to take hgh mainly because of the lack of information I can find, I know all the sides but like I said I doubt I'll take it for a while, money's not really an issue for the long cycle but what is a good age to begin using it for bodybuilding purposes?

 

[Presser]

Igf-1 lr3 is all I use, and trumps hgh hands down period. With that said research up bro

 

[Dianabolman]

Igf-1 lr3 is all I use, and trumps hgh hands down period. With that said research up bro

I've been doing quite a bit of research lately and after reviewing my first post I am not 25 I am 22, I don't know how that keeps getting messed up I'm always doing this on my phone so that's probably why, anyways I want to do Igf I'm looking forward to it and ive been looking for a lot of research peptide companies and meanwhile I'm being a dumb ass you guys sell it here fml anyways yeah so I plan on running Igf des some lr3 depending on what you guys have some mgf and ghrp for a while, just trying to do a bit more research before I go through with anything thanks for the info, trust me I'm not as inexperienced as I sound but I know very well my place being a newbie and being as young as I am I want to get all the details, I already have my whole cycle prepared know all the sides dosage etc, just want to learn a little more, thanks

 

[The Dude]

You need to understand that there is no "right" age for steroids and bodybuilding drugs unless you are on HRT or severely injured. Tell me which guy in the top 100 said "oh no, I don't want growth hormone, I'm too young for that". You need to set some realistic attainable goals. You need to get in shape to do a show. See what you've got. Try it out. Keep your doses small and stick with basic drugs. They all do the same thing... if you want more add IGF. Quite frankly it's my opinion that anyone using bodybuilding drugs should be using IGF. Stop worrying about this peptide and that drug. Test, Deca, IGF, and lots of lean beef. With your current size you should be able to put on 80 lbs fairly quickly. Bodybuilding is all about the law of diminishing returns. You aren't catching on to that. I can keep 90% of my condition eating 3 times a day on 200mg a week of test and training once or twice a week. All the other stuff is just fun fluff or stuff advanced guys need to get that last 5 lbs of muscle. The difference is IGF will up regulate your receptors and help build new muscle cells. Literally until your 300 lbs you don't need to worry about the other stuff.
There are guys at the gym that are always talking about how many thousands of milligrams of 6 different steroids and peptides and all that crap and these guys are my height and MAYBE 180... being as I'm 5'9 and your are 6'3 that's about where you are. I am using more than I normally do (for maintenance ) now and trying to put more muscle on my already 250 lb physique and they are taking 5 times more than me!
You need to stop spending money on peptides and anything but the basics and hire a legit trainer. I know how the young kids think they don't need a trainer, but a good trainer will put more muscle on you in 10 weeks than 2 grams of whatever the cool new steroid is. Shit if I decide to do another show sometime I'm going to hire a trainer for the entire thing including a few months prior.
Whatever you are thinking about I've probably done it. Thats not bragging. I was a dumb kid and I didn't want to take good advice.
400mg of test
400mg of Deca
50-100mcg of IGF daily (MC is the only 100% legit source that I have had 100% success with over the last 10 years)
2- 3lbs of lean meat per day
Legit trainer. If you have anything close to what's needed to be Pro, that will get you there

 

[Dianabolman]

You need to understand that there is no "right" age for steroids and bodybuilding drugs unless you are on HRT or severely injured. Tell me which guy in the top 100 said "oh no, I don't want growth hormone, I'm too young for that". You need to set some realistic attainable goals. You need to get in shape to do a show. See what you've got. Try it out. Keep your doses small and stick with basic drugs. They all do the same thing... if you want more add IGF. Quite frankly it's my opinion that anyone using bodybuilding drugs should be using IGF. Stop worrying about this peptide and that drug. Test, Deca, IGF, and lots of lean beef. With your current size you should be able to put on 80 lbs fairly quickly. Bodybuilding is all about the law of diminishing returns. You aren't catching on to that. I can keep 90% of my condition eating 3 times a day on 200mg a week of test and training once or twice a week. All the other stuff is just fun fluff or stuff advanced guys need to get that last 5 lbs of muscle. The difference is IGF will up regulate your receptors and help build new muscle cells. Literally until your 300 lbs you don't need to worry about the other stuff.
There are guys at the gym that are always talking about how many thousands of milligrams of 6 different steroids and peptides and all that crap and these guys are my height and MAYBE 180... being as I'm 5'9 and your are 6'3 that's about where you are. I am using more than I normally do (for maintenance ) now and trying to put more muscle on my already 250 lb physique and they are taking 5 times more than me!
You need to stop spending money on peptides and anything but the basics and hire a legit trainer. I know how the young kids think they don't need a trainer, but a good trainer will put more muscle on you in 10 weeks than 2 grams of whatever the cool new steroid is. Shit if I decide to do another show sometime I'm going to hire a trainer for the entire thing including a few months prior.
Whatever you are thinking about I've probably done it. Thats not bragging. I was a dumb kid and I didn't want to take good advice.
400mg of test
400mg of Deca
50-100mcg of IGF daily (MC is the only 100% legit source that I have had 100% success with over the last 10 years)
2- 3lbs of lean meat per day
Legit trainer. If you have anything close to what's needed to be Pro, that will get you there

Yeah I agree with you 100% I hate when stupid people who don't know the vast world that is bodybuilding act like they know it all, as for a trainer I am definitely looking for one, just trying to find the right one, you and the presser and several others are convincing me more and more to use Igf which I planned to already, I'm just getting more hyped about it, as for my gear, I've listened to a lot of the vets and dropped my test back to 500mg a week bc I just gained 35lbs on an only test cycle, no need to fix what isn't broken, I've jumped it to 14weeks just to solidify gains further, I've been reading that you should use Igf for about 40 days max, then it begins to stop working I guess, What is your view on that?

 

[The Dude]

I am a big proponent of longer lower dose cycles. Especially for those that accept HRT is a cost of doing so. I knew I could never maintain the amount of muscle I wanted with no AAS at all so I use at least an HRT dose (which actually brings you to absolute top optimal range) year round.
I've used IGF for years straight doing it preworkout only and never say any diminished effects. This is my first time doing it everyday. Personally I don't understand the science behind only taking it for 4-6 weeks... it's effects are near identical (GH works by increasing blood IGF levels). People take GH for as long as they can afford it but the general consensus is no less than 6 months. I plan to use IGF for as long as I can afford it. There are no down sides. It strengthens tendons and joints and can produce new muscle cells.. my opinion is use it as long as you can. That being said all IGF is NOT THE SAME. Years ago when I first decided to try it I used 5 different companies. All of them were crap. I began to believe I was a non responder. Then I found my way over here and decided to give it one last shot. The changes were immediate and dramatic. You will feel real IGF working. In fact I think 500mg of test and 50-100mcg per day of IGF would be a stout very productive cycle. IGF tends to solidify the gains you make on AAS.

 

[cloudstrife1218]

Great posts dude.

 

[The Dude]

Great posts dude.

Thanks Bro.
I hope you don't think I'm dogging you. I've been where you are. Drugs are fun shit. It's excited to see what they do and it's motivating as hell. If you said you just want to see what you can do and do a couple shows I may say something different. Real competitive bodybuilding is a dirty dirty game. Alot of this shit is illegal... I've gone to the ER for infections and all kinds of nasty shit from dirty gear and peptides. I've used synthol and I've used it a few times in my calves... there are so many risks... and to even get on a legit national stage you need to really know what youre doing to minimize the risks. Some of these drugs will kill you..

 

[camthman]

You need to understand that there is no "right" age for steroids and bodybuilding drugs unless you are on HRT or severely injured. Tell me which guy in the top 100 said "oh no, I don't want growth hormone, I'm too young for that". You need to set some realistic attainable goals. You need to get in shape to do a show. See what you've got. Try it out. Keep your doses small and stick with basic drugs. They all do the same thing... if you want more add IGF. Quite frankly it's my opinion that anyone using bodybuilding drugs should be using IGF. Stop worrying about this peptide and that drug. Test, Deca, IGF, and lots of lean beef. With your current size you should be able to put on 80 lbs fairly quickly. Bodybuilding is all about the law of diminishing returns. You aren't catching on to that. I can keep 90% of my condition eating 3 times a day on 200mg a week of test and training once or twice a week. All the other stuff is just fun fluff or stuff advanced guys need to get that last 5 lbs of muscle. The difference is IGF will up regulate your receptors and help build new muscle cells. Literally until your 300 lbs you don't need to worry about the other stuff.
There are guys at the gym that are always talking about how many thousands of milligrams of 6 different steroids and peptides and all that crap and these guys are my height and MAYBE 180... being as I'm 5'9 and your are 6'3 that's about where you are. I am using more than I normally do (for maintenance ) now and trying to put more muscle on my already 250 lb physique and they are taking 5 times more than me!
You need to stop spending money on peptides and anything but the basics and hire a legit trainer. I know how the young kids think they don't need a trainer, but a good trainer will put more muscle on you in 10 weeks than 2 grams of whatever the cool new steroid is. Shit if I decide to do another show sometime I'm going to hire a trainer for the entire thing including a few months prior.
Whatever you are thinking about I've probably done it. Thats not bragging. I was a dumb kid and I didn't want to take good advice.
400mg of test
400mg of Deca
50-100mcg of IGF daily (MC is the only 100% legit source that I have had 100% success with over the last 10 years)
2- 3lbs of lean meat per day
Legit trainer. If you have anything close to what's needed to be Pro, that will get you there

Amen to all of this. I get a kick out of people running huge doses of gear. Get priorities straight. You nailed it. ++++++1

 

[Vernall]

I think in everythink you need to know where you limits are. After reading all of this information, I understood that before starting taking some drugs you must understand what you want to have after, what body you want to see, what kind of results. I don't want to gym and take many thousand of milligrams of different sterouds and peptides.
Thank you guys for good information.

 

[3J]

gh by itself wouldn't cause any issues in your early 20's..

my main concern with gh and anabolic use is cardiomegaly a.k.a enlarged heart..

if youre going to run high dosages and multiple compounds, i highly recommend you have your cardiologist in the loop, regularly checking your heart..

also, remember that gh makes everything grow.. cancer?? grow..

make sure you have a clean bill of health before starting gh.. and keep a schedule of regular check ups

 

[yellow snow]

gh by itself wouldn't cause any issues in your early 20's..

my main concern with gh and anabolic use is cardiomegaly a.k.a enlarged heart..

if youre going to run high dosages and multiple compounds, i highly recommend you have your cardiologist in the loop, regularly checking your heart..

also, remember that gh makes everything grow.. cancer?? grow..

make sure you have a clean bill of health before starting gh.. and keep a schedule of regular check ups

amen to this. Make sure you are getting regular blood work done, if you can afford GH you can afford regular blood work.

 

[Just A Guy]

What would be a recommended dose of IGF and where to inject? That should be covered under this thread as well since were on the subject, plus it helps the rest of us. Thanks