Why Use HCG If I'm On TRT For Life
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pgb
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still a little confused about it. if trt knocks out natural test production, then won't hcg just be unproductive? or is there some other mechanism in our bodies taking place that allows us to produce natural w/ hcg while taking trt? also, is there an alternative to hcg. just happens, i am quite allergic to it and get urticaria. i have a vial still, unreconstituted, because of it.
I have actually had a few patients that are allergic to HCG. It is really unfortunate!
Hcg acts upon the diacephalon and mediates the production of testosterone naturally (when you use synthetic test, your body signals the diacephalon and hypothalamus to discontinue production due to high reserve). It is very good compound with many other benefits!
eh, the closest would be hgh and that is highly regulated and illegal (not to mention expensive)
Hcg acts upon the diacephalon and mediates the production of testosterone naturally (when you use synthetic test, your body signals the diacephalon and hypothalamus to discontinue production due to high reserve). It is very good compound with many other benefits!
eh, the closest would be hgh and that is highly regulated and illegal (not to mention expensive)
yellow snow
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So if I am on TRT and HGH there really is no need for HCG?
pgb
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sure yellow, who wants big nuts banging around anyway, lol. i'm not looking to have more kids either.
pgb
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that makes it a bit clearer. i do not think that a peptide like gnrh would do much good, since it only signals the body to start producing test, but it wouldn't continue to do so with test in the system already. not trying to be critical, just trying to understand better.
yellow snow
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Muscle mechanic
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I on TRT and don't want hcg.
I am also taking hgh.
I like more than TRT dose though.
Alot of guys bloat and need too much ai's with hcg!
I like proviron, masterone with trt nolva 10 mg a day if blasting.
According to my bloods and my bloat, AI is not worth it.
And I am not having any more kids. I also understand that testes makes other things besides testosterone BUT I have had no trouble and neither anyone else that doesn't fool with it.
My balls or only tighten up when estro is high even on lots more than TRT.
Estro good no nuetured Look! That is me. And that AI messes things up.
I feel on trt proper dose that u shouldn't need an ai especially if taking TRT dose at 50mg Monday and 50mg Thursday
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I am also taking hgh.
I like more than TRT dose though.
Alot of guys bloat and need too much ai's with hcg!
I like proviron, masterone with trt nolva 10 mg a day if blasting.
According to my bloods and my bloat, AI is not worth it.
And I am not having any more kids. I also understand that testes makes other things besides testosterone BUT I have had no trouble and neither anyone else that doesn't fool with it.
My balls or only tighten up when estro is high even on lots more than TRT.
Estro good no nuetured Look! That is me. And that AI messes things up.
I feel on trt proper dose that u shouldn't need an ai especially if taking TRT dose at 50mg Monday and 50mg Thursday
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If you are using hgh then there is absolute no need or reason to run hcg.
Hcg essentially keeps the nuts doing their job, that is why they are kept up to normal size while running hcg with TRT. Run it for 6 months without hcg and you can definitely tell a difference.
AIs are not needed at 100-150mg week of test. More like 200mg/wk and higher. However, everybody is different and convert differently. Labs don't lie, that's why we get them
dr b
Hcg essentially keeps the nuts doing their job, that is why they are kept up to normal size while running hcg with TRT. Run it for 6 months without hcg and you can definitely tell a difference.
AIs are not needed at 100-150mg week of test. More like 200mg/wk and higher. However, everybody is different and convert differently. Labs don't lie, that's why we get them
dr b
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Yes but estro has been misunderstood
It's a ratio to test. Not a value we seek with test levels over 3000-5000 uncapped!
On blast. Labs don't lie but neither does us who exceeded medical research.
Don't get mad Dr. But I know alot and use my Dr's to write script, orders, and find one I trust in surgery is necessary!!!
I know as much as ones I seen in past.
Plus I have time to research on my areas only and not accommodating 100's of different ones.
As stated unlike The US big Pharma business first best interest later, masterone and proviron work better for labs.
Problem is lots of guys I help get on 200 TRT a week at the gate hcg and AI 3x a week.
Where are labs on them before doing this lots of them post here at MC and pm me for help. There bp goes thru the roof.
Hcg should be delayed after try dose stable then estro test at 3 months before adding an AI!
50mg 2x per wk should be guild line for for 3 months until labs are back unless it's and old juice head who knows what they doing.
Just saying. Speaking my experience
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pgb
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lmao, i've had problems with mine since i was a teenager and got rack up good. nearly no nuts is a God send. lol.
i think the point the doc is trying to make is that we can possibly be able to still produce a bit of natural testosterone using hcg while on a trt program, which actually is a good thing. at least for the guys who can take hcg.
pgb
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so, are you saying i can run hgh instead, since i'm allergic to hcg. realize it cost more.
pgb
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considering what i've spent on other things, it could be worse. what is your recommended dosage for hgh, if i may ask. i've ran it at 2iu twice a day and at 3iu once a day. i felt i got better result at 3 iu once a day. it also helped to extend how long i could use it. just everyday pins get monotonous. have to save up now, whilst i cruise, except going off right now waiting to see uro. that sucks, like va.
3ius per day is definitely considerable. I always base it off of "Feel" as different compounds work different on everybody. if 3ius are what work best for you and you are managing all sides then thats where I would dose. Love HGH. Wish the government did not regulate it so highly or I would include heavily in my practice.
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