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Good read about Var only cycle..

cenzo78

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Did about 400 google searches about var only cycles, and this was the best read I found. I know someone who got pharm grade var and ran an 8 week cycle at only 30mg and gained 12lbs. Lots of you seem knowledgeable about Var, can you give this a look and see if its accurate?



I have seen about three threads a day in the past month on anavar alone, and they all turn into arguments involving the same parties....so let this just be a "guide" for an individual planning/considering using oxandrolone as a standalone compound.

First, id like to get a few things straight about var.

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11
 
Good read, and I pretty much agree with this article....Im using Var now with Test, and some EQ (going to drop out the EQ, cause it seems to raise my RBC count, gotta get that blood draw here soon) and I notice that my strengh is going up, my weight is up to around 250lbs (from just 230lbs a month ago, ofcourse this is just old muscle coming back) and my pumps are killer....Var is a good oral to use...
 
I may be the weirdo in the room but anavar makes me dizzy. I thought it might have been something else but I have dropped it and started again over and over and it always has the same effect. It does harden me up and strength gains were very noticeable.
 
I knew you guys would know your shit about anavar! Its looking more and more like im going to go down this root. From everything im reading about this, you do not really need a pre wo supp, due to vars great pumps, and i doubt id run any post wo creatine with it. Im so tired of dropping 200 a month on supps with little payoff.

Once I find a reputable place or person to get this, im also going to get some nolva and milk thistle to be on the safe side. Any other suggestions? The guy I know that did the 30mg a day was 59 years old and got great results, would that due for a 200lb 32 year old?
 
Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

I dont know about anavar (Oxandrolone) showing diminishing effects or returns at 80mg daily dosage. This post was years ago, but extremely high on google so i thought i would update it with todays information we now know about since the entire steroid trade has moved from mexico to china, and under ground labs all over the world lol , such as now days your more likely to receive Winstrol (stanzolol) instead of legitimate Anavar, this not only goes for anavar tabs, but also powder, though its easy to spot the powder differences and not so easy to tel a winny tab from an anavar tab until its kicked in and you feel the differences.

Also now days everyone say you need at the very least 80mg daily anavar to feel it working well, and this too may have something to do with the steroid era we now live in and the quality of steroids being sold and cycled by bodybuilders now days are not nearly as pure as they were just a decade ago! However even with real anavar i still do not believe you will see a diminishing return at 80mgs, but i do believe as i just mentioned that if its real pure then yeah you can get away with feeling geat on 40-60mg dose daily!


As far as the 3 cycles laid out in this original piece which i have quoted above, well i dont even know where to begin lol, so i wont bother with cycle number #1, it just a shitty cycle.

Steroid Cycle #2 I can work with lol and yes proviron and anavar will stack well together though those doses look more suited for a female bodybuilder than a male.

Steroid Cycle #3 Anavar, Testosterone Propionate for 8 week cycle, pretty sweet combination , but again, dosages look more suited for women, whereas a male bodybuilder would like use at least 150mg Test Propionate every other day, and the clomiphene 2 week layout and daily dosage looks fine.

Anyhow, thats my update on the ANAVAR thread lol,

Since Anavar so highly sought after while also being faked so much, maybe some of the members here can share their experience with what Brands of Anavar have worked well for them in the past and maybe share their cycle dosages.
 
hey, so i am a girl who lifts... its my first time into steroids and i am starting next week an only var cycle so i will lose excess fat and get lean as this is always the hard part and i really lose fat very very hard and never before got really lean as wanted.. so i am getting var from pct-shop and they told me to start 20 mg of var the first 2 weeks and 30 mg another 3 weeks.. so i think the dosage is way bigger for a girl as the begginers start from 5 mg to 20 mg.. so i told my trainer that and told me to do what he says.. what do you think .. i will be thankful for helping :/
 
hey, so i am a girl who lifts... its my first time into steroids and i am starting next week an only var cycle so i will lose excess fat and get lean as this is always the hard part and i really lose fat very very hard and never before got really lean as wanted.. so i am getting var from pct-shop and they told me to start 20 mg of var the first 2 weeks and 30 mg another 3 weeks.. so i think the dosage is way bigger for a girl as the begginers start from 5 mg to 20 mg.. so i told my trainer that and told me to do what he says.. what do you think .. i will be thankful for helping :/

Well if its your first time using any steroid of any kind, then those anavar dosages are a bit high. Though maybe you were more thorough with them in your states and goals, what training youll be doing which could change things a bit making you need slightly higher anavar dosages. Will the anavar be used primarily as a muscle builder and your already lean, or are you trying to lose a ton of body fat and the anavar will be used for muscle sparing effects due to high cardio volume sessions etc.., so without knowing much about you i wouldnt be comfortable suggesting a dosage nor going against someone elses advice to you with your dose of anavar, but I can say as a general statement that a female first time to steroids , most do not start out at 20mg and jump right to 30mg after 2 weeks.

now even with all that said, those dosages arent overkill by any stretch of the imagination, but being your new to all steroids, you might get ample benefit from 10-15mg to start with.
 
ok, no reply from here lmao,

great Anavar profile information anyhow to bump up for other men and women to read, whether taking anavar only cycle or stacking your var with other steroids!

I think another option for a female who wants to stack her cycle but without real harsh steroids, then anavar alongside a sarm like Ostarine i think would be really good for a women without the side effects,

I would like to hear if anyone women or even male, have any experience with the synergy between using anavar (oxandrolone) with a Sarm in their cycle, specifically would like to know about Ostarine anavar cycle and what dosages and duration was the cycle along with gains made?

thnx!
 
Oxandrolone aka ANAVAR stacked with SARM like Ostarine, has anyone done this as per my last question lmao,
 
I had actually planned to do something like that soon Press. However I'm pretty sure my last 2 runs with var were bunk. Not sure I wanna spend$ again to chance it.
 
Just threw in some low dose var. Scored it for free off of a buddy. Have to say I really appreciate the stuff. It is like positivity in a bottle. Noticed my hair thinned a little though.
 
Just threw in some low dose var. Scored it for free off of a buddy. Have to say I really appreciate the stuff. It is like positivity in a bottle. Noticed my hair thinned a little though.


And your hair thinning you think due to the anavar ?
 
I had actually planned to do something like that soon Press. However I'm pretty sure my last 2 runs with var were bunk. Not sure I wanna spend$ again to chance it.

Did you ever run it? or similar cycle with a SARM and Anavar ?
 
Well if its your first time using any steroid of any kind, then those anavar dosages are a bit high. Though maybe you were more thorough with them in your states and goals, what training youll be doing which could change things a bit making you need slightly higher anavar dosages. Will the anavar be used primarily as a muscle builder and your already lean, or are you trying to lose a ton of body fat and the anavar will be used for muscle sparing effects due to high cardio volume sessions etc.., so without knowing much about you i wouldnt be comfortable suggesting a dosage nor going against someone elses advice to you with your dose of anavar, but I can say as a general statement that a female first time to steroids , most do not start out at 20mg and jump right to 30mg after 2 weeks.

now even with all that said, those dosages arent overkill by any stretch of the imagination, but being your new to all steroids, you might get ample benefit from 10-15mg to start with.

Agreed with presser 100℅ on this post he hit the nail on the Head
 
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