I'm thinking of running my cycle with tren ace and npp, along with test and mast. I will have anti-p, nolva and adex. I have read that winstrol at about 20mg everyday helps offset the prolactin issues? I have experience with tren, have any of you ever done 2 19 nor at the same time or is this just stupid?
2 19 nor at the same time?
pgb
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i've ran both, was trying to do a lean bulk. problem is the tren kept me from being hungry and tryintg to force feed myself got ridiculous. the cycle was still good, just wasn't hungry. i use nandrolone for it's pain relieving properties in the joints, so it wasn't a very high dose, maybe 300-400mg/wk. i used mast to help offset deca-dick as well as serm, adex, and anti-prolactin. don't skip using test, at least at a trt level. doesn't need to be high, just to replace being shut down.
pgb
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i like npp for workouts, but prefer deca mostly. it seems to work better for strength. i know there both nandrolone, but i felt a little different running tren ace then i did with tren e. i have problems gaining size as it is, but with tren is thrown in, it was about impossible. i don't try to pack on too much these days, since i'm older, but it's become a challenge since i started doing gear 2.5 years ago, just to keep my weight where it was. i weigh 200 at 5'7" right now. i did weigh 225 before i started.
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I am also older (52) and have been on gear for about 2.5 yrs. I have never done tren e. I love tren a, I always start my cycle weighing in the high 190's I'm 5'11 and that has my body fat at a decent starting point, not as good as I would like but good enough to start a cycle. I always seem to be able to get to around 212-215 lbs keeping fat ok. How have you done with sides running both at the same time?
pgb
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i'm 60y/o myself. i started all this because i couldn't get the va doc to put me on trt. it sure opened up a whole other world for me. i'm probably around 15-20%bf, but i don't get too serious about it. i don't compete or anything, so i don't go into the deprivations that bb's do. i'm one of those that doesn't get the sides off tren that most people talk about. i did get it a little more with the tren e, but not enough to be any kind of problem. deca and tren together wasn't bad, i used a serms and adex for estro, and used prami, to offset prolactin levels. i kind of went by feel with the prami. not enough led to more deca dick. you can use caber instead. i also use finesteride, it helps if you have problems with the prostate due to dht levels getting high. deca doesn't turn to dht, but test does. and dros (mast) is dht already.
like i said though i don't get the sides most do. no big aggession, not bad night sweats, or nightmares. some people steer clear of tren e, because it gives them more problems and when those arise, it's harder to get the tren cleared fast enough, lol.
Muscle mechanic
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I would consider hgh alot of good generics around....
I personally like trest ace in your case... wouldn't bother with NPP.... or tren with it!
What it's sounds to me is u trying to use tren to keep off body fat.... and add NPP for more size..
Just use hgh and t4 with deca and whole aromatase crew, u will get lean no matter what
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I personally like trest ace in your case... wouldn't bother with NPP.... or tren with it!
What it's sounds to me is u trying to use tren to keep off body fat.... and add NPP for more size..
Just use hgh and t4 with deca and whole aromatase crew, u will get lean no matter what
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Muscle mechanic
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I don't get tren sides people speak of either. Had them with tren e and that scared me...
Well atm I am using this to lower pinning.
Test e 100mg MWF
Tren hex 75mg MWF
A 225mg cut blend 75mg of each fast ester test ace, tren ace and mast p. 1ml MWF
Fill rest up with mast e or mast p. Mast e 250mg/ml mast p 200mg/ml I alternate the 2.
Phera-Flex (Madol) 15mg a day upping to 30mg soon.
Nolva 6.25mg a day
Aromasin 6.25mg a day
Caber Sun Pharma 0.5mg a day
Veted pharna Cialis 10mg a day
T4 100mcg Synthoid US Pharma
Hgh 3.3iu upping soon and may change to some blue top 99% using a black 99% atm and rathered specific blue tops....
MT2 250mcg MWF
This is working nice, once ripped I will drop to short ester and add trest ace and will maintain 7% or less with hgh and t4
I got some NPP but only use it to jump deca going!!
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Well atm I am using this to lower pinning.
Test e 100mg MWF
Tren hex 75mg MWF
A 225mg cut blend 75mg of each fast ester test ace, tren ace and mast p. 1ml MWF
Fill rest up with mast e or mast p. Mast e 250mg/ml mast p 200mg/ml I alternate the 2.
Phera-Flex (Madol) 15mg a day upping to 30mg soon.
Nolva 6.25mg a day
Aromasin 6.25mg a day
Caber Sun Pharma 0.5mg a day
Veted pharna Cialis 10mg a day
T4 100mcg Synthoid US Pharma
Hgh 3.3iu upping soon and may change to some blue top 99% using a black 99% atm and rathered specific blue tops....
MT2 250mcg MWF
This is working nice, once ripped I will drop to short ester and add trest ace and will maintain 7% or less with hgh and t4
I got some NPP but only use it to jump deca going!!
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Muscle mechanic
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Only two 19nor I run are deca and trest ace!! Cabar plus test and ai. Never been so horny in life and I said deca and = to test both 600wk
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drtbear1967
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Nice stack
Dean Destructo
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Tren E is not for any noobs, that is for sure. You have to be on point. Fluctuations in blood levels are going to make the sides come out the most.
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