Sorry to say, as bad as I wanted Jay to win, he lost fairly. Jay was 6 points ahead after pre-judging. But, Ronnie blew him away at the finals, and not by any small gap either. Ronnie's routine blew everyone out of the water, except King Kamali. If Jay refine's his routine, next year he will be Mr Olympia. But if he uses a lame, reserved routine like he did in 2001, and depends on his physique, he won't beat Coleman. Pro BBing is not like amature. Your physique and posing at pre-judging will not win you the Mr O. You have to be a showman, and an entertainer. You have to bring down the house with your routine to stand a chance. Then your Physique can do the talking. Ronnie did everything right. He brought the entire audience to their feet. Thats why he won. During the final posedown, it was obvious who was going to win. Ronnie had the entire arena going crazy, while the rest of the top ten were standing there watching him! Ronnie deserved to win, but next year I think Jay is going to have a better idea of what its going to take to beat him. Later