Cycle advice

[MysteryPump]

I want to start a cycle of NPP AND TEST PROP. i NEED HELP ON DOSAGE A and if stacking DBOL with it will b ok for the first few weeks?Also is this even a good stack for size?I' ve read up on both and it seems like it would be. Any info will help.

 

[Ox 51]

MysteryPump, I think this is a very big cycle for a first timer and especially for a 21 year old. I started at 33 and still only ran test for the first three cycles.

 

[Ox 51]

Also, if you are 5'11", you are a big dude. I've gained 30 pounds in the last year from testosterone alone and I'm still just 190 pounds. If you are set on starting a cycle, I would advise you to start with a test only cycle. If you start a cycle of three things like you have listed above and you have problems, you don't know which of the three is causing the problem. If you start with test and have no problems, you could add another substance later and if you had problems, you'd know it was that second substance causing them.

 

[Lightsout]

Also, if you are 5'11", you are a big dude. I've gained 30 pounds in the last year from testosterone alone and I'm still just 190 pounds. If you are set on starting a cycle, I would advise you to start with a test only cycle. If you start a cycle of three things like you have listed above and you have problems, you don't know which of the three is causing the problem. If you start with test and have no problems, you could add another substance later and if you had problems, you'd know it was that second substance causing them.

Good point Ox. If you are going to start something just run a light cycle of test.. But why don't you want to wait tell you get older ???

 

[Mrbigz]

i think this guy will do it wether we so no or yes any way, but thats actually not to bad for starting out, you dont have to hit big dosages, cc of prop every 2nd day same with npp, and 40mg dbol. thats really good to start with.

just train hard and remember these supplements are not gonna get you big alone. eat big, train big and get your rest.

good luck

 

[MysteryPump]

Thanks everyone ur all a big help.sry i understand im to young but u all know when ur life revolves around working out and u dont get results ur looking for it really sets u off. Thanx for ur concern but i will to a really light cycle.

 

[tripleduce]

everyone was in your shoes at some point regaurdless of age do i think u should wait yes only because of your age, saying that make sure you do you homework and all is in place to insure proper diet and training along with dosage and pct, and wether now or later youll never ( depending) grow as good as you do on your first cycle so dont jump into anything, you have nothing but time ,its not a race its a lifestyle. just a note at 21 your body is still in its prime for natural muscle growth ,its very efficient in keeping your hormones balance to ensure growth and all you have to worry about is eating and routine , you add in outside influence and this balance is upset and becomes your problem to keep in check to minimize sides , you may already be aware of this just thought id throw it out there

 

[Gear Head]

Test E 500mg weekly split into two 250mg shots a week... weeks 1-10
Dbol 40mg ED... weeks 1-4
Keep it simple that will do just fine for a first timer, and run proper PCT afterwards
If you are ready to take them then take them, i started when i was 20 and dont regret it at all

 

[MysteryPump]

thanx for info, but i already bought test prop. what should the weekly dosage for that be?

 

[Gear Head]

I see, well your going to have to pin EOD.. i would say anywhere from 50 to 100 mg an injection, whats your test mg/ml ratio? if its 100mg/ml this will be 1/2 cc to a a full cc EOD.. You will like the hard gains you get from the prop, but a longer ester test like test e or test cyp would have produced you more mass.. Prop is really good for front loading a long ester test because it works a lot faster, and prop is also used in cutting cycles because you get hard gains with less water retention.

 

[MysteryPump]

Thanx bro.

 

[Ox 51]

What are you using during the cycle and for PCT? The muscle chemistry store has Aqua-Dex that would be great during and Aqua-Clo that would be great for PCT. Also, it's wise to keep Nolva-Bloat on hand in case you notice any symptoms of gyno developing. And, it looks like all of these are Buy One, Get One Free right now. I know you are eager to run this cycle, but please be careful with it.

 

[big in vegas]

It's easy to take the plunge into AAS, but honestly at 21 you can pack on SERIOUS weight if you upped your calories. Your test levels are as good now naturally as they'll ever be

 

[MysteryPump]

As far as pct have clomid and tamoxifen, i was also planning on taking a small dose everyday to prevent the side effects from even starting. Is that good enough or what do u think.

 

[Gear Head]

I have always used nolva, people will tell you that you need both, people will tell you that you dont. I have never used clomid and it worked out just fine for me, I prefer nolva because it is a lot more potent and you need smaller doses to retain your gains... But all and all it's not a bad start, but save it for PCT, not everyone that takes AAS is susseptable to the sides. You may never need to waste them during your cycle, take it only as side effects begin to appear.

 

[MysteryPump]

ok thanx bro.

 

[theBIGness]

If you must do it then 100mg prop and 50mg npp eod and 20mg dbol ed will do the trick

 

[MysteryPump]

Cool man i appreciate all ur help.