D-Bol and Anti-e's...

[sndmn6]

I plan on taking 25-30 mg/ed of D-Bol for the first four weeks of my next cycle. I understand that the water bloat can be pretty extreme, although it can be offset by taking Novladex while running it. Does taking anti-e's curb one's gains somewhat? I heard that from several people. And if I do take Novladex, at what doseage, and should I wait to see the effect of the D-Bol before I start, if at all? Thanks all.

 

[winnie]

i would run liquidex at .30 -50mg's ED at that bloat wont' be a problem. Also, I don't think that they hinder gains enough to worry about, you have to take a little to get a lot these days.

 

[bigdog20]

Just have the nolv on hand in case you see sign of gnyo. Bloat can be control with you diet.

 

[BLEED GREEN]

I agree with Winnie-the liquidex will control the bloat.

 

[gymrat]

personally I believe that nolvadex does slightly hinder gains. I keep it on hand just in case but never use.

For the bloat and a good anti-e I would go with .25mg ed of liquidex. That'll do the trick.

 

[mbstrong]

.25mg ed liquidex will help and just use the nolvadex if you see signs because it can hinder your gains.

 

[SNDMN]

Would shooting the liquidex twice a week help, instead of .25 mg ed? Also, if I chose not to use liquidex (for monetary reasons, of course), does the bloat go away shortly after I discontinue my use of D-Bol?

 

[gymrat]

Would shooting the liquidex twice a week help, instead of .25 mg ed? Also, if I chose not to use liquidex (for monetary reasons, of course), does the bloat go away shortly after I discontinue my use of D-Bol?

Liquidex is taken orally bro. just like nolvadex except that it's in liquid form. If you choose not to take liquidex, the bloat will be the least of your problems as you may have some estrogen side effects (bitch tits).

 

[gymrat]

Oh and I strongly encourage you to do some research before going into a cycle. It seems like you don't have all your information down yet and can possibly make some errors along the way and cause some damage to yourself. Stick around the board a while and ask questions as there are a lot of individuals here with great experience and can help.

 

[Choke03]

Listen to Gymrat.

 

[MacGyver]

Nolvadex does not prevent the aromatization but only acts as an estrogen antagonist. This means that it does not prevent testosterone and its synthetic derivatives (steroids) from converting into estrogens but only fights with them in a sort of "competition" for the estrogen receptors. So you will still see bloat on it. You need to run Femera or liquidex or proviron if you don't want test to aromitize.

 

[SNDMN]

It seems that most of you are leaning towards liquidex along with my upcoming cycle. Will using that make a big difference in the outcome of my cycle. Say if I didn't use Liquidex, what would be the difference? I am just curious because I know some bodybuilders who have been in the game for a while and don't even know what that is even.

 

[gymrat]

then they may have hear of Arimidex. Liquidex is a new relatively newer version. A liquid form of arimidex.

The difference if you did not use liquidex would be more bloat and possibly gyno sides.