Dear tren gurus and lovers I seek some advice...

[pgb]

i agree with you irongame. roid rage is a myth, to me anyways. back many years while i was still a natty, i was a lot like you. i was constantly on guard, ready to go into action, always on alert. i think that is what the marines have instilled in us. i use to get so heightened in my senses whenever i'd go out, it was ridiculous. i really don't have friends perse, aside from my wife, mom, and kids. i must say i appreciate finding this board, where i don't have to be on guard. i don't go out much either.

since i've gotten older, i've mellowed a lot. when i started trt and felt better from it, at first i didn't think i'd really want to endeavor in anything other than test. needless to say, that was short live. i've done two tren cycles now, just finishing the second. i have not gotten the aggression, night sweats, or nightmares. the first cycles i was very concerned about all that and it was a short cycle to see how it went. aside from tren dick and reduced cardio, i haven't really had any bad sides. been running the tren at about 300 a week. test has been higher using both test e and prop. i tried proviron, but i have sides from it, i get seriously bad runny nose and watery eyes, if i take too much. so i dose it at 50 mg per week. it's weird , i know. i can't take hcg at all. i break out in hives.
as far as the aggression, i think that has a lot to do with our general make up as men. being type a personalities plays a big part in it, i believe.
just what i've experienced with tren, so far. i don't run too many substances at once. i like to keep it down, because really, i am pretty darn new to this.

 

[LeatherHead]

Ok, so you think Test E at 400mg or so EW with TA kept at the 450mg ew? My issue you think is the test? I'm ok with night sweats as long as I stay super hydrated. I agree sweating means fat loss haha. But I do have this question about the 400mg long test.... it will obviously take a few weeks to kick in, should I continue the test p or what? Lmao

I would continue the test prop for 2 weeks while the Test e kicks in.

 

[Masher59]

Given tren's chemical makeup is like Decas, I too wanted to do the same 2/1 as you would with deca. But frienxs4and even those on forums said other way... not going great I might add..

Now, I got 3ml syringes, I have never shot more than 3ml per shot. So, dosage for me isn't an issue. I have a bunch of test p and some longer ones and a few sus250. Now, at 450mg of tren, I'd be one 900mg if test p... that is a lot of juice and a decent amount of pins.

Personally I prefer to not shoot ED especially since I plan at least 8 weeks on tren. So, do I get 5ml syringes? Shoot higher dosed test like test e or sus or what? Lmao also I do have proviron, not much, around 1000.g total I was saving for my pct or shortly after...

Oh and I am also using hcg 250mg EOD.

I have 6ml syringes that I call turkey basters lol but you can just use 2 3ml for extra. I have been doing that lately because dumping 6ml in one hip or ass cheek is a lot. Going with 3ml in each hip or each shoulder. When I first started with tren I ran my test 2 to 1 but as I used it more and more I found out I personally liked that fucked up feeling and now I run my tren waaay higher lol. Sometimes my tren is honey colored and sometimes is looks like dark chocolate. When it's dark I notice that I stink more lol, I mean smell like a mule during my workouts and cardio. Sometimes I get really dizzy and cant catch my breath and I sweat bullets especially on leg day. I look good but inside my body there is a damn war going on against fat lol.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I have 6ml syringes that I call turkey basters lol but you can just use 2 3ml for extra. I have been doing that lately because dumping 6ml in one hip or ass cheek is a lot. Going with 3ml in each hip or each shoulder. When I first started with tren I ran my test 2 to 1 but as I used it more and more I found out I personally liked that fucked up feeling and now I run my tren waaay higher lol. Sometimes my tren is honey colored and sometimes is looks like dark chocolate. When it's dark I notice that I stink more lol, I mean smell like a mule during my workouts and cardio. Sometimes I get really dizzy and cant catch my breath and I sweat bullets especially on leg day. I look good but inside my body there is a damn war going on against fat lol.

I have 6ml and 12ml too.
I got mine at tractor supply.
Sterile is sterile.
Been buying their 20 packs of replacement sterile needles too for like 8 years no issue.

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[Masher59]

Yea I hit tractor supply and we have a farmers co op and they have some massive needles in there. I'm talking some I could put through a car door lol.

 

[guardianactual]

100% brutha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I stay to myself most of the time. You guys are my friends. You and my kids and wife are my friends and family. I feel guilty a lot, about blowing up. Thats why I usually think "roid rage" is b.s. I have taken more meds than most families take altogether. It never makes a dent. I don't notice anything. When I leave my house I feel like a machine set to "on guard" status. Sad but fucking true. I have been this way all my life. I watch everyone like they are the enemy and if something happens, I react by pouncing on them. Truthfully I don't even have a chance to count to 10. It dosent matter where I am, whos with me, or whos with them. Its terrible!
I feel like its a war zone and shit is going to happen. Not if its going to happen but when its going to happen. And I have to be ready for it, LOL!

I have been able to hide from myself in the bottle or drugs before but you and I know how that ends.

With me, I think the aas just increase my bp. I don't flip out for no reason, things that piss me off normally seem to be slightly worse on gear. Tren or something about this combo makes me anxious and some days I feel crappy. That feeling makes me more prone to be angry. idk what roid rage is defined as, but I don't get blood thirsty or anything, I get pissed for sure, but again, it's all based off of things that already make me mad. Given tren suppresses cortisol and shit, I feel that makes anxiety worse, wouldn't it? Im no chem expert, but we do have cort for a reason. I feel amazing today. Winded from cardio but great.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

With me, I think the aas just increase my bp. I don't flip out for no reason, things that piss me off normally seem to be slightly worse on gear. Tren or something about this combo makes me anxious and some days I feel crappy. That feeling makes me more prone to be angry. idk what roid rage is defined as, but I don't get blood thirsty or anything, I get pissed for sure, but again, it's all based off of things that already make me mad. Given tren suppresses cortisol and shit, I feel that makes anxiety worse, wouldn't it? Im no chem expert, but we do have cort for a reason. I feel amazing today. Winded from cardio but great.

Correct I have same suspicion on tren and cortisol but I have taken cortisol lowering supplements with tren and good ones and it make it better so....

It's CNS that is the increase and estro with it.
It's imbalance of hormones!!!
Teen is 5x androgenic and 5x anabolic than testosterone BUT it's a progestin that doesn't aromatase!!!

Take a nerve pill even a low dose and watch how calm u will be on tren!!! Lol

And think this, I am on 40-50mg adderall a day prescribed so I am used to CNS stimulation.
Also know that tren increased prolactin
And Prolactin and dopamine control one another.
More dopamine less prolactin.
So u tell me. Stimulates increase huge dopamine releases and dopamine lowers prolactin and cortisol increases prolactin and big dopamine releases are followed by prolactin....
So u get me we can go on forever
The mystery is tren is very selective almost a different species than other steroids.
Some can't use it, some can, someuse high test low tren and fine
Some other way around.
Some add in dht stuff like mast and proviron and it helps.
Other people get anxiety and high bp and blow off handle from too much testostone, but those estro levels rising cause that, and dht causes aggression but not anxiety!!
Find what works for u. Be patient some can't use too much tren they use 50 eod and get results
Other use more
Some use tons
Deca dick is from too much prolactin and not enough testosterone
Limp dick without prolactin compound is from lack if dht, testosterone, and too much or too little estro!!!!
So it can be alot of things!!!
I have test suspension and when I get limp dick I take it that after noon or next and say look he is ready bulging out my pants with suspension and my daily 10-15mg Cialis.
I got superman caps too viailis!! Mix
I got iron man 7 Viagra/levetra 65/35
If my dick don't work for longer than a day that alone would freak me out!!!
Anicilleries learn their uses!!!!


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[guardianactual]

Correct I have same suspicion on tren and cortisol but I have taken cortisol lowering supplements with tren and good ones and it make it better so....

It's CNS that is the increase and estro with it.
It's imbalance of hormones!!!
Teen is 5x androgenic and 5x anabolic than testosterone BUT it's a progestin that doesn't aromatase!!!

Take a nerve pill even a low dose and watch how calm u will be on tren!!! Lol

And think this, I am on 40-50mg adderall a day prescribed so I am used to CNS stimulation.
Also know that tren increased prolactin
And Prolactin and dopamine control one another.
More dopamine less prolactin.
So u tell me. Stimulates increase huge dopamine releases and dopamine lowers prolactin and cortisol increases prolactin and big dopamine releases are followed by prolactin....
So u get me we can go on forever
The mystery is tren is very selective almost a different species than other steroids.
Some can't use it, some can, someuse high test low tren and fine
Some other way around.
Some add in dht stuff like mast and proviron and it helps.
Other people get anxiety and high bp and blow off handle from too much testostone, but those estro levels rising cause that, and dht causes aggression but not anxiety!!
Find what works for u. Be patient some can't use too much tren they use 50 eod and get results
Other use more
Some use tons
Deca dick is from too much prolactin and not enough testosterone
Limp dick without prolactin compound is from lack if dht, testosterone, and too much or too little estro!!!!
So it can be alot of things!!!
I have test suspension and when I get limp dick I take it that after noon or next and say look he is ready bulging out my pants with suspension and my daily 10-15mg Cialis.
I got superman caps too viailis!! Mix
I got iron man 7 Viagra/levetra 65/35
If my dick don't work for longer than a day that alone would freak me out!!!
Anicilleries learn their uses!!!!


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I popped 20mg cialis. No issues. The sex drive isnt there like it was with mast and test but my test was 150mg a week. I upped it. Probably going to do high test see how it goes. But not double. Idk if I can do 900mg test with tren lmao maybe 600 see how I feel? I am calm at times on tren, but for some reason I have been sick like slugfish and flu like and cranky too. Tren definitely can get me going. Idk where the shittiness came from? Doing the nolva 10mg ED as you suggested. Increasing my test. Might switch to ED shots with tren to aid in the balance. Imbalances def fuck with you.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I popped 20mg cialis. No issues. The sex drive isnt there like it was with mast and test but my test was 150mg a week. I upped it. Probably going to do high test see how it goes. But not double. Idk if I can do 900mg test with tren lmao maybe 600 see how I feel? I am calm at times on tren, but for some reason I have been sick like slugfish and flu like and cranky too. Tren definitely can get me going. Idk where the shittiness came from? Doing the nolva 10mg ED as you suggested. Increasing my test. Might switch to ED shots with tren to aid in the balance. Imbalances def fuck with you.

I do test prop 50-60 ev day
Tren a 75 ev day
Mast p 150 a day.
Proviron 50-75 a day
Nolva 10 mg a day and want to do it so much i sweet talk go lovely lovely cause she is burned out. And I beat one orvyeo out on own with mobile Porn on that comba
BUT I ALSO USE MC ANTI-P AT .5 @2XWK
I am hard all day for nothing and strobbing. With this combo
I use may be .5 Adex total a wk!
I also use low avar with it 40 mg Balken
All may gear is ugl except Balken
I used proviron EP, and plat-bio-tech,
And ugl, even Bayer and they all were same!
It takes so long to cum she is sore and she is a squirting gusher whole time!
Always. I gave up twice a couple times but was rock hard It was like 45 minutes at least and I couldn't treat her like a piece of meat but she gets upset when I don't cum and I Just say o bet I will later ok! And do
She can't even undress around me and we been together 10 years.
Not on those hormones!
A gram of mast prop needed a wk
50-60 test a day sufficient
But I also use Cialis every day for bp
Control started at 5 mg up to 10-15 and add in a few Viagra bombs
Like in way home She says she is waiting then I am cumming she says I will be too.
It's all about wanting it and being in that moment.
If u don't have her hot and juicy that will affect u too now!!!
Tren needed to be harnest or it will rule u!!!
Food from the Gods!!



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[guardianactual]

I do test prop 50-60 ev day
Tren a 75 ev day
Mast p 150 a day.
Proviron 50-75 a day
Nolva 10 mg a day and want to do it so much i sweet talk go lovely lovely cause she is burned out. And I beat one orvyeo out on own with mobile Porn on that comba
BUT I ALSO USE MC ANTI-P AT .5 @2XWK
I am hard all day for nothing and strobbing. With this combo
I use may be .5 Adex total a wk!
I also use low avar with it 40 mg Balken
All may gear is ugl except Balken
I used proviron EP, and plat-bio-tech,
And ugl, even Bayer and they all were same!
It takes so long to cum she is sore and she is a squirting gusher whole time!
Always. I gave up twice a couple times but was rock hard It was like 45 minutes at least and I couldn't treat her like a piece of meat but she gets upset when I don't cum and I Just say o bet I will later ok! And do
She can't even undress around me and we been together 10 years.
Not on those hormones!
A gram of mast prop needed a wk
50-60 test a day sufficient
But I also use Cialis every day for bp
Control started at 5 mg up to 10-15 and add in a few Viagra bombs
Like in way home She says she is waiting then I am cumming she says I will be too.
It's all about wanting it and being in that moment.
If u don't have her hot and juicy that will affect u too now!!!
Tren needed to be harnest or it will rule u!!!
Food from the Gods!!



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I wasn't able to cum when I was on deca.. It sucked for me, but the gf loved it. So far tren and I arent mixing, I do believe it is low test tho. I'll adjust. Like Masher said pop higher test. So I am shooting 400mg test E and 200mg test p EW. I think Ill drop tren to 300mg won't hurt. Keep the old school 2/1 test/tren and enjoy the run. Also adding TSO Caradrine at 20mg starting Monday. I am also dropping var down to 50mg ED trying to keep my ldl and all that to a safe level.

I am still for whatever reason, eating under 1000 cald, just don't want food at all. I am increasing my water to 1 gallon, I was at 11 cups a day, but the weather is going up this week and more water is never bad, I sweat like mad lmao.

So, here is the upcoming plan
600mg test EW
300mg tren EW
50mg var ED
10mg nolva ED
600mg masteron p EW
25mg Aromasin EOD IF NEEDED
AntiP 1mg EW

I do have proviron but I planned to use it off cycle since It's limited. If I get some extra $$ I will buy more proviron and run it at 75mg ED for as long as possible. I also am out of cialis, so I may have to order some off TSO in case of BP or something.

MM what are your typical results on the stack you run? I am really hoping to get to 13% bf in 6-8 weeks... yikes...

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I wasn't able to cum when I was on deca.. It sucked for me, but the gf loved it. So far tren and I arent mixing, I do believe it is low test tho. I'll adjust. Like Masher said pop higher test. So I am shooting 400mg test E and 200mg test p EW. I think Ill drop tren to 300mg won't hurt. Keep the old school 2/1 test/tren and enjoy the run. Also adding TSO Caradrine at 20mg starting Monday. I am also dropping var down to 50mg ED trying to keep my ldl and all that to a safe level.

I am still for whatever reason, eating under 1000 cald, just don't want food at all. I am increasing my water to 1 gallon, I was at 11 cups a day, but the weather is going up this week and more water is never bad, I sweat like mad lmao.

So, here is the upcoming plan
600mg test EW
300mg tren EW
50mg var ED
10mg nolva ED
600mg masteron p EW
25mg Aromasin EOD IF NEEDED
AntiP 1mg EW

I do have proviron but I planned to use it off cycle since It's limited. If I get some extra $$ I will buy more proviron and run it at 75mg ED for as long as possible. I also am out of cialis, so I may have to order some off TSO in case of BP or something.

MM what are your typical results on the stack you run? I am really hoping to get to 13% bf in 6-8 weeks... yikes...

I will bump a thread it's call my cut

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