Do you label yourself a Drug Abuser?

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MonkeyWrench

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I got into an argument sometime back with an x-girlfriend, who like to powder her nose, I didn't really approve and I let her know it one night, and she stated that her and I were the same. That using illegal narcotics was the same as using AAS. Hell no it's not I exclaimed! It's not the same at all, I don't consider myself a drug abuser. If you want to drink alcohol til your liver falls out, that's legal. If you want to smoke cigarettes til your lungs are black and you have COPD that's legal. If you want to eat shity fast food til your fat as hell, you can and that's legal. But, if you want a better body, bigger muscles and use Testosterone, which is already in the male body, so you were born with Class III drugs in your system, then it's illegal. And I'm not dealing crack, or smoking rock, or getting high, or destroying my nasal cavity. But we never settled on the issue, as I stated earlier X-girlfriend. How do others feel, are you the same as a heroin addict? Or meth head, crack rock smoker? What do you consider yourself as in the pursuit of a better body?
 
When I see people trading sex for gear then I'll classify it as a narcotic. Caffeine is addictive, gear is not.
 
I always tell a girl that if she wants to wear makeup to look better then that's no different than me using AAS to look better. To me there is a huge difference between using and abusing. Do I use drugs (AAS), yes, but when was the last time someone killed their AAS dealer to get their fix?
 
I agree there is a big difference between cocaine and AAS. Hell I got 8 bottles sitting at home now I'm on my 6 week off waiting till about mid December to get back on but I'm not like a a crack head thinking you go to do it till its all gone.
 
ok im a recovering alcoholic/addict who uses AAS for me i do not obsess over AAS or have a physical addiction to them. when i was strung out on drugs and alcohol thats all i thought about and did some fucked up shit to get it. i had no will power to resist it. yes i look forward to running my little cycles and at times want to do a bigger cycle or jump back into one quicker but to compare drugs and AAS is a joke lol we addicts got some fucked up ways of thinking and make many excuses never taking responsibility
 
In a general sense of the term "abuse" when applied to drugs in general, which will include AAS, then we could be considered "abusers" ONLY because we take more of it than would really be necessary to the human body. That said, in the comparison that the ex-girlfriend made, we can infer that she thinks that AAS causes the same effects as the drugs she takes, i.e., addiction, severe harm to self and others, etc. We know that this is not the case with AAS, and in that kind of comparison, we are definitely NOT abusers. Unfortunately, and this is something that everyone needs to be educated about, the main public as a whole shares the ex-girlfriend's point of view, thanks to the media who have spread misinformation wantonly and without regard about the subject of anabolic steroids.
 
All very good points, let's not forget about plastic surgery to enhance ones image, now there's always a risk undergoing surgery, however low, it's still there. But that's ok and legal,
 
Got onto this subject with the ol' lady too. She smokes an enormous amount of pot to offset the side effects of the SSRI's she's on. She spends more in 1 month than I will in 6 comparitively. It all boiled down to the point that she's afraid of the needle itself and wants me to tell her when I start a cycle so she can monitor my mood. I've got an inkling that she'll try and attempt to get a rise out of me. Any question she asks, I answer honestly regarding the subject. If she thinks something is AAS and its not (ancillary, multi-vitamin, ECA, peptide, pre-workout drink, etc...), I clarify. All in all, we've come to accept each others usage over the few years we've been together. Things have worked out well in that regard. And to answer the original question, no, I don't consider myself a drug abuser. Self medicator, sure.
 
I wouldn't compare taking steroids to a women using makeup as stated above a few posts however I would compare it quite closely with a women using Botox or getting breast augmentation , or anything else like this!

My second point is when I use anything it's always just Testosterone which was also stated above as being produced naturally in men anyhow ! I don't use deca, EQ or much else other then Testosterone and I don't see the problem at all!

but to compare steroids to hardcore drugs and even pot is a joke! The public is so misinformed that its irreversible !! I know a guy who was never once in trouble with the law! NEVER! He got caught with just a couple bottles of Testosterone , had his home raided, lost his good job! Lost his new born daughter!!!! Lost his home , and was sentenced to real serious jail time!!! First Offense!

so while I'm reading all ur comments about how it's not like hardcore drugs , and I agree! Lets not not forget its treated as hardcore drugs in the court of law! You can never let ur guard down, just because you feel like its no big deal!
 
I wouldn't compare taking steroids to a women using makeup as stated above a few posts however I would compare it quite closely with a women using Botox or getting breast augmentation , or anything else like this!

My second point is when I use anything it's always just Testosterone which was also stated above as being produced naturally in men anyhow ! I don't use deca, EQ or much else other then Testosterone and I don't see the problem at all!

but to compare steroids to hardcore drugs and even pot is a joke! The public is so misinformed that its irreversible !! I know a guy who was never once in trouble with the law! NEVER! He got caught with just a couple bottles of Testosterone , had his home raided, lost his good job! Lost his new born daughter!!!! Lost his home , and was sentenced to real serious jail time!!! First Offense!

so while I'm reading all ur comments about how it's not like hardcore drugs , and I agree! Lets not not forget its treated as hardcore drugs in the court of law! You can never let ur guard down, just because you feel like its no big deal!
That's a very true statement, it's senseless. Insulin should be a class III drug as well, thyroid medication, and all the hormones your body makes naturally, hell Everyman should be thrown in jail because their body is making Testosterone!!! That's illegal!!!
 
I only use the comparison to make up because I just use it to look better, not thinking of any legal facts that remain in the matter. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with using AAS or any drugs for that matter for all I care. The way I've always looked at it is that if someone wants to use something to better themselves or destroy themselves, that should be their prerogative. I also strongly believe that if the government truly cared about turning this debt around that legalizing things and actually giving the user what they think they're really getting then it'd take the criminal aspect out of it all and allow them to not only make a killing on the taxes from sales, but alleviate money being taken from the public since the jails would be cleared. I know that'll never happen, but to me it sounds good in theory
 
nobody has ever stopped drinking because opening the bottle was a hassle and no one ever stopped smoking various things because lighting up was a PITA. but most guys I know take breaks from even the smallest amount of test because they got tired of being stuck. I know I have. better yet take away someone's daily coffee and suddenly you have a very grumpy person with some serious with drawl symptoms.

go to an AA meeting and tell them you're using anabolics. they'll get pissed because they think you're making fun of them.
 
I know people that love the needle, they can't wait to pin, crazy. I don't care one or another, it's fast pretty painless, if your on HRT it's really no big deal, but I also know guys that start shaking like a leaf when they see the needle.
 
I know people that love the needle, they can't wait to pin, crazy. I don't care one or another, it's fast pretty painless, if your on HRT it's really no big deal, but I also know guys that start shaking like a leaf when they see the needle.

I hate needless like a democrat hates spending cuts. It's all I can do to put an insulin pin in my belly. For the big ones I have to get someone else and go to my happy place while it happens. lol
 
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