TheRoadWarrior
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yeah local cops are easy... customs agents MUCH greedier .... i had a shipment of E-shisha stuff seized at customs (its illegal to sell here)... it was about $300 worth of items.... they wanted $500 more to release it
First timeer IGF1 ordered - Will continue to update with pics of progress
yeah local cops are easy... customs agents MUCH greedier .... i had a shipment of E-shisha stuff seized at customs (its illegal to sell here)... it was about $300 worth of items.... they wanted $500 more to release it
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seems like everything came through ok.
my only concern is that it was in the heat for awhile... between air shipping, sitting in customs warehouse, and back of a delivery truck in sweltering heat... it probably got pretty hot.... hopefully that doesnt affect its potency?
im keeping it in the fridge after i received it of course.... but during the shipping process theres no way to really keep it cool when its traveling for several days in high heat.
my only concern is that it was in the heat for awhile... between air shipping, sitting in customs warehouse, and back of a delivery truck in sweltering heat... it probably got pretty hot.... hopefully that doesnt affect its potency?
im keeping it in the fridge after i received it of course.... but during the shipping process theres no way to really keep it cool when its traveling for several days in high heat.
its fine brutha even at room temp for long periods of time when its suspended in aa solution, even if its hot outside, the and even if the ice pack is melted when it arrives, the actual contents inside the vial is 100% still viable as its not hot inside the vial, its likely still cool!! so your good!
ENJOY brutha!
ENJOY brutha!
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cool, good to know... they felt cool/normal to touch when i picked them up, so should be fine.
have to finish off the last 2 weeks of this tren cycle and then i cant wait to fire up this IGF.
im super tempted to just jump in 2 weeks early hahahah... everytime i open my fridge that IGF is sitting there looking at me saying "cmon.. you know you wanna"
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oh and just to keep the topic interesting.... here is my friend that came to hang out yesterday 
Fuck yea
oh and just to keep the topic interesting.... here is my friend that came to hang out yesterday
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well...i couldnt resist starting my IGF1 early hahaha... i mean, it was just sitting there in the fridge begging me to start!
as i mentioned earlier, i was previously on cycle of 750mg test E / 400mg tren E per week, at about week 14.5 now, of a 16 week cycle.
ive actually already dropped my test down to 500mg already about week 12 to retain less water.
normally i would cycle off down to just 250mg test E per week TRT dosage and stay like that for several months.... thats why i got the IGF1 to use during that bridge period.
however... i really dont want to stop the tren.... i LOVE tren, this was my first time trying it... and i feel great... most people say they have to stop running it around 12 weeks because they feel horrible.... but i feel fantastic.
the insomnia went away... my cardio is fine (maybe 30% down from normal), i dont have trouble breathing or anything... i sweat a lot but thats normal for me anyway.... my BP is normal... i feel totally fine.... so im gonna get liver/kidney/cholesterol values checked and as long as nothing is a red flag, im just gonna stay on the 400mg tren for longer, and reduce my test to 250mg.
ill say this though... i believe i have very weak receptors for gear... whether its test, tren, or any other gear related substance, it always seems my body doesnt get as powerful of a kick as my buddies do for the same dosage.... but the benefit is that i also do not get any of the sides that they get.... no acne, no gyno, etc..... so im not very sensitive to gear, but im also not sensitive to side effects.... so thats probably why i feel fine on tren for so long.
anyways, im probably gonna add T3 this week, which is dirt cheap here.... and later HGH when budget allows.
im reading i should do 12.5mg per day of the T3 for best fat loss effect without sides?
never done it before, should be interesting
so back to the main point, i did my first IGF1 injections... put 30mcg (or at least what i hope is 30mcg) into each calf, so total 60mcg... i mean, its such a miniscule amount that it probably doesnt get exactly the right amount... but close enough.
dont have any bac water to backfill with , have to find some this week.
i think i pinned into the wrong spot, because my calves felt super uncomfortable and tight right after injection, almost immediately..... its about 18 hours later now and they still feel weird, like somebody kicked me in the back of the calf.
think im gonna switch to just subQ tomorrow and pop it in my love handle or something.... i know a lot of people say pin the muscle youre going to work for amazing pumps, but i dont really need bigger pumps than i get naturally, cause sometimes its so much already that i lose range of motion and have a hard time driving my motorcycle home.
i did my inj pre-workout, and then hit a big bowl of oatmeal covered with honey and some chocolate milk (so good!) then headed to the gym for chest/tris day... normal i workout on empty stomach, but supposedly i need to have carbs in me with the IGF.
had pretty good workout... felt about 20% more pumped than normal, but other than that didnt notice anything else, and to be honest that could be placebo effect at this point... only other thing i noticed was my aching calves haha, i must have totally done the wrong spot.
took a couple selfies for documentary purposes of course
as i mentioned earlier, i was previously on cycle of 750mg test E / 400mg tren E per week, at about week 14.5 now, of a 16 week cycle.
ive actually already dropped my test down to 500mg already about week 12 to retain less water.
normally i would cycle off down to just 250mg test E per week TRT dosage and stay like that for several months.... thats why i got the IGF1 to use during that bridge period.
however... i really dont want to stop the tren.... i LOVE tren, this was my first time trying it... and i feel great... most people say they have to stop running it around 12 weeks because they feel horrible.... but i feel fantastic.
the insomnia went away... my cardio is fine (maybe 30% down from normal), i dont have trouble breathing or anything... i sweat a lot but thats normal for me anyway.... my BP is normal... i feel totally fine.... so im gonna get liver/kidney/cholesterol values checked and as long as nothing is a red flag, im just gonna stay on the 400mg tren for longer, and reduce my test to 250mg.
ill say this though... i believe i have very weak receptors for gear... whether its test, tren, or any other gear related substance, it always seems my body doesnt get as powerful of a kick as my buddies do for the same dosage.... but the benefit is that i also do not get any of the sides that they get.... no acne, no gyno, etc..... so im not very sensitive to gear, but im also not sensitive to side effects.... so thats probably why i feel fine on tren for so long.
anyways, im probably gonna add T3 this week, which is dirt cheap here.... and later HGH when budget allows.
im reading i should do 12.5mg per day of the T3 for best fat loss effect without sides?
never done it before, should be interesting
so back to the main point, i did my first IGF1 injections... put 30mcg (or at least what i hope is 30mcg) into each calf, so total 60mcg... i mean, its such a miniscule amount that it probably doesnt get exactly the right amount... but close enough.
dont have any bac water to backfill with , have to find some this week.
i think i pinned into the wrong spot, because my calves felt super uncomfortable and tight right after injection, almost immediately..... its about 18 hours later now and they still feel weird, like somebody kicked me in the back of the calf.
think im gonna switch to just subQ tomorrow and pop it in my love handle or something.... i know a lot of people say pin the muscle youre going to work for amazing pumps, but i dont really need bigger pumps than i get naturally, cause sometimes its so much already that i lose range of motion and have a hard time driving my motorcycle home.
i did my inj pre-workout, and then hit a big bowl of oatmeal covered with honey and some chocolate milk (so good!) then headed to the gym for chest/tris day... normal i workout on empty stomach, but supposedly i need to have carbs in me with the IGF.
had pretty good workout... felt about 20% more pumped than normal, but other than that didnt notice anything else, and to be honest that could be placebo effect at this point... only other thing i noticed was my aching calves haha, i must have totally done the wrong spot.
took a couple selfies for documentary purposes of course
Looking jacked bro and no it's not placebo even on ur first time with it as its insuline-like bro meaning it helped force/shuttle more nutrients , carbs glycogen into urmuscles, fueled them more so to speak. So be sure to take advantage of that and cram carbs in and protein !!! You'll grow like a monster and get leaner
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oh yeah, and cant forget the post-workout extra workout!
i actually had 3 different girls come over to bang in the same day (thankfully not at the same time!)... its like a triple cardio day!
i actually had 3 different girls come over to bang in the same day (thankfully not at the same time!)... its like a triple cardio day!
oh yeah, and cant forget the post-workout extra workout!
i actually had 3 different girls come over to bang in the same day (thankfully not at the same time!)... its like a triple cardio day!
Dick!!! Lol no need to rub it in lmao lucky bastard
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yeah i actually didnt feel shitty during my workout like i normally would if i ate right before.... thats why i normally workout on empty stomach... if i eat before, i feel sluggish and bloated.... but today i felt totally fine after a big bowl of carb rich oatmeal and honey.
later in the day hit an all you can eat thai bbq buffet (so awesome) and downed several plates of bacon, beef, and pork and tons of veggies.... definitely had my calories on point today hahaha.
all you can eat for as long as you want for about $7
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if i didnt "rub it in", they wouldnt be coming over in the first place!
come visit bro, ill have you swimming in more tail than you can imagine.
and pretty much all gear is over-the-counter here.
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just passed 3rd day, finally got to go for another workout (only getting 3-4 days per week lately)
switched to subq fat injection around my midsection.... much more comfortable than my calves lol
feel pretty solid pumps... nothing crazy, but definitely above normal as far as my vascularity and fullness when im in the gym
today i added 4iu/day of hygetropin HGH to my stack... and also 25mcg T3... cant wait to see what affect it has in a month or so
switched to subq fat injection around my midsection.... much more comfortable than my calves lol
feel pretty solid pumps... nothing crazy, but definitely above normal as far as my vascularity and fullness when im in the gym
today i added 4iu/day of hygetropin HGH to my stack... and also 25mcg T3... cant wait to see what affect it has in a month or so
like a boss everywhereJust placed my order with pressed for my first batch of IGF1.
I'm coming off a 750 test / 400 tren cycle (first time on tren)
Will be using the IGF1 during bridge period.
70mcg IGF1 per day for 8 weeks.... along with 250mg/week test E (my normal TRT cruise dosage).
Planning on post-workout 35/side bilateral IM injections... PWO because i cant eat before the gym, it makes me feel sluggish and slow during my workout, can only eat afterwards.
current status :
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ok, im back.... had not been here to update the topic in a long time... fucking computer HD crashed and ive been lazy about getting it fixed.
anyway, heres the situation
2 vials into my IGF, so im halfway.
been doing 60-70mcg per day subQ belly fat (hard to measure exact amount)
i never stopped my test/tren.... just decided to stay on it, because i feel no sides or problems.
from the IGF here is what ive seen
1. pumps are INSANE....i feel and look like a different person in the gym... ill post a gym and non gym pic to after this to show the difference.... my muscles swell up, veins pop out, and i look significantly larger in the gym.... this wears off after an hour or two unfortunately... wish it lasted all day!
this is probably the most enjoyable part about IGF... it really does feel fantastic when im in the gym, almost addicting.
2. injury recovery.... i have 2 herniated discs in my lower back, and my knees both have persistent Osgood Schlatters syndrome.... for the past 5-10 years i pretty much could not do any deadlifts or squats unless they were really low weight and even then i risked being injured for weeks.
about 3-4 weeks into the IGF i noticed my back was feeling much better....so i decided to try some deadlifts... started light and worked my way up 365lbs... nothing impressive, but for a guy who has never deadlifted more than 200lbs in his entire life, i was really impressed how much better my back felt.... theres still pain and i have to keep my abs super tight to avoid injury, but i definitely feel the IGF has helped in this area.
im also squating again... my knees sitl hurt like a motherfucker for 2 days afterwards, but im doing 4 sets of 275lbs x 10-12reps every leg day and so far the tendons havent ripped.... previously even just 135lbs squats could rip my knees.
3. size gains.... really none to notice... my other dosages/drugs have remained constant, and i just added the IGF on top of it, so i was expecting to maybe gain a few lbs extra muscle from the IGF, but havent.
4. bodyfat.... the first month on IGF i went down a bit because was strict with my diet, but last 3 weeks ive actually gone up in bodyfat a slight bit... not due to the IGF of course, its all about diet, but the IGF doesnt seem to burn any more fat for me than i was already burning on the test/tren.... so taking IGF didnt give me any extra leeway, i have to just as careful as before just to maintain the same level.
its possible i need a higher dosage to get better fat burning and muscle building effect... i wish i had ordered 2 more vials and started with 100-120mcg per day for the entire cycle, but its too late now and i will just finish this cycle as-is and try a higher dosage next time.
the negative..... pain and welts!
at first my IGF injections were barely noticeable.... i do them subQ in my belly fat and lovehandle areas.... i tried IM but it was incredibly painful the first time i tried it, hurt for a week and could barely flex my calves... so i switched to subQ and it wasnt bad at all.... but over the past 2 months the injections have become increasingly more painful.
as soon as i inject the IGF i get a burning/painful feeling and then it burns slightly for 10-15mins after then goes away, and then i have a hard welt under the skin for 2-3 days until it dissipates.
my other friend who ordered the IGF with me also has the same problem with it, and he stopped taking it because of that, he gave it away to another buddy of mine and he is having the same problem..... we make jokes about it because the welts look like an extra ab under the skin, hes got a 9-pack now lol.
anyone else experience this burning and welts?
are we having a reaction to the acetic acid?
its not bad enough to make me stop... but its definitely weird... especially since the first few weeks i didnt really notice an PiP or welts.
for the record, IGF stored in the fridge, new clean needles used every injection, 29g slin pin, i use the same style pins for my HCG and no issues, the problem is unique to the IGF.
heres some pics.... can see the massive different in muscle fullness and vascularity between being in the gym, and a few hours later outside the gym
this pic is 3 weeks ago, before i screwed up my diet a bit, so this was at my leanest
and this is outside the gym, after the IGF pump has worn off.... less vascular and less muscle fullness... look softer... but its the same week, even the same days
anyway, heres the situation
2 vials into my IGF, so im halfway.
been doing 60-70mcg per day subQ belly fat (hard to measure exact amount)
i never stopped my test/tren.... just decided to stay on it, because i feel no sides or problems.
from the IGF here is what ive seen
1. pumps are INSANE....i feel and look like a different person in the gym... ill post a gym and non gym pic to after this to show the difference.... my muscles swell up, veins pop out, and i look significantly larger in the gym.... this wears off after an hour or two unfortunately... wish it lasted all day!
this is probably the most enjoyable part about IGF... it really does feel fantastic when im in the gym, almost addicting.
2. injury recovery.... i have 2 herniated discs in my lower back, and my knees both have persistent Osgood Schlatters syndrome.... for the past 5-10 years i pretty much could not do any deadlifts or squats unless they were really low weight and even then i risked being injured for weeks.
about 3-4 weeks into the IGF i noticed my back was feeling much better....so i decided to try some deadlifts... started light and worked my way up 365lbs... nothing impressive, but for a guy who has never deadlifted more than 200lbs in his entire life, i was really impressed how much better my back felt.... theres still pain and i have to keep my abs super tight to avoid injury, but i definitely feel the IGF has helped in this area.
im also squating again... my knees sitl hurt like a motherfucker for 2 days afterwards, but im doing 4 sets of 275lbs x 10-12reps every leg day and so far the tendons havent ripped.... previously even just 135lbs squats could rip my knees.
3. size gains.... really none to notice... my other dosages/drugs have remained constant, and i just added the IGF on top of it, so i was expecting to maybe gain a few lbs extra muscle from the IGF, but havent.
4. bodyfat.... the first month on IGF i went down a bit because was strict with my diet, but last 3 weeks ive actually gone up in bodyfat a slight bit... not due to the IGF of course, its all about diet, but the IGF doesnt seem to burn any more fat for me than i was already burning on the test/tren.... so taking IGF didnt give me any extra leeway, i have to just as careful as before just to maintain the same level.
its possible i need a higher dosage to get better fat burning and muscle building effect... i wish i had ordered 2 more vials and started with 100-120mcg per day for the entire cycle, but its too late now and i will just finish this cycle as-is and try a higher dosage next time.
the negative..... pain and welts!
at first my IGF injections were barely noticeable.... i do them subQ in my belly fat and lovehandle areas.... i tried IM but it was incredibly painful the first time i tried it, hurt for a week and could barely flex my calves... so i switched to subQ and it wasnt bad at all.... but over the past 2 months the injections have become increasingly more painful.
as soon as i inject the IGF i get a burning/painful feeling and then it burns slightly for 10-15mins after then goes away, and then i have a hard welt under the skin for 2-3 days until it dissipates.
my other friend who ordered the IGF with me also has the same problem with it, and he stopped taking it because of that, he gave it away to another buddy of mine and he is having the same problem..... we make jokes about it because the welts look like an extra ab under the skin, hes got a 9-pack now lol.
anyone else experience this burning and welts?
are we having a reaction to the acetic acid?
its not bad enough to make me stop... but its definitely weird... especially since the first few weeks i didnt really notice an PiP or welts.
for the record, IGF stored in the fridge, new clean needles used every injection, 29g slin pin, i use the same style pins for my HCG and no issues, the problem is unique to the IGF.
heres some pics.... can see the massive different in muscle fullness and vascularity between being in the gym, and a few hours later outside the gym
this pic is 3 weeks ago, before i screwed up my diet a bit, so this was at my leanest
and this is outside the gym, after the IGF pump has worn off.... less vascular and less muscle fullness... look softer... but its the same week, even the same days
yeah bro, the burning at first for a few minutes everyone gets and ya get use to it to the point you don't even realize it, as for the welt, its pretty rare, some guys skin is a little sensitive to the aa solution, and this happens and they go away of course to, but the secret is to apply it as deep as possible and to also apply it very slow, the faster you push it in the more it welts up like a little air pocket,
good to hear the igf is working well for ya, and tell your buddy to man up for christs sake! lol
pictures looking good daddio!
good to hear the igf is working well for ya, and tell your buddy to man up for christs sake! lol
pictures looking good daddio!
TheRoadWarrior
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good to know... ill try injecting much slower tomorrow
i really cant get over the gym pumps man... its insane.... you feel like an absolute monster
next time gonna do 120mcg per day.... or see if my buddy will give me some of his vials so i can bump up dosage right now
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