help me get my nuts back?

[musclebound86]

im ending my first cycle and i have mc's nova bloat and aquaclo. and i just wanted to make sure thatll be enough to get my nuts back. also whats the dosing for those.

 

[saudades]

I believe the nolva bloat is 20-40mg/day, and the aqua clo is 50-100mg/day. Technically, you only need one or the other, and if you added HCG, that combination would work the fastest.

 

[Ox 51]

Your first cycle? What did you do? I've done about three cycles now and I swear my nuts are growing.

 

[musclebound86]

I just did 500 mg of test a week. I also posted it under uncle review. My test level was at 2600. In 6 weeks I grew an inch on my biceps along with my chest. All my maxes went up by like 200 lbs. I loved it but I have celulitis in my arm so I'm stoping early.

 

[musclebound86]

Bit I was taking aquadex each day and I still lost my nuts, got chest achne, and tenderness of my nips. I guess I need a higher dose

 

[big in vegas]

You definitely want to take nolva bloat if you have tenderness in your nipples. HCG will get your nuts back very quickly. There's many ways to take it, I always do 250iu's every 3rd day

 

[musclebound86]

What's hcg

 

[musclestang]

this is the problem...people shouldnt be doing cycles if they dont know how to recover afterwards...do your research first then make a cycle that incudes pct start to finish

 

[musclebound86]

Hey bro I did do my research. A lot of it . And I found out that I need novadex and clomid after. But it is my first time and I keep learning everyday . So instead of being a Dick u could be helpful.

 

[WesleyInman]

Hitting a 2600 nanogram level with 500mgs per week is a feat in itself...Almost too good to be true. Are you sure you weren't running a much much higher level, or did you fail to mention orals, etc...

And he is right, you need HCG...and you did not do enough research or you would not be asking this question. What stang is saying, is you should know ALL of the in's and out's of what you are doing....Using AAS should NOT be taken lightly.

I agree with him, it is foolishness, he is in no way being a "dick"...He is being honest with you, its constructive criticism, in a few years when you have actual experience you will look back and realize people here are trying to help you, you just don't like knowing you planned poorly, or actually not at all.

250 iu 2x per week or 500iu once per week is a pretty basic HCG dosage to use post cycle.

You should wait until the second week after your last shot or dose of AAS prior to HCG. You want to run Nolva, say 20-40mgs per day for a solid 2 weeks after your last shot of HCG. And the clomid can be ran at 50mgs per day for 30 days, or some people run 100mgs for a week or two and then follow with 2 more weeks of 50mgs per day.

These are BASIC guidelines that CAN be used...this may not be IDEAL for yours or anyone elses situations, but it is BASIC, and will work...

I suggest you research the hell out of all aspects of AAS prior to using it again.

 

[musclebound86]

There was nothing else just 500 mg of test and my blood work came back at2600. N I specificly asked questions on this forum about what my pct should b and noonday ever even mentioned hcg. All the responds were nova and clomid so I appolgise if I come off uneducated about the subject but I honestly have done a lot of research and it just never came up

 

[saudades]

What's hcg

HCG is an acronym that stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin. It's a hormone produced by fetuses in women and also in the pituitary gland of both males and females. It is similar to LH (lutenizing hormone) so it is commonly used to induce ovulation in females and production of testosterone in males.

From Wikipedia:

In the world of performance-enhancing drugs, hCG is increasingly used in combination with various anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) cycles. As a result, hCG is included in some sports' illegal drug lists.

When exogenous AAS are put into the male body, natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down its own production of testosterone via shutdown of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPGA). This causes testicular atrophy, among other things. hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.[25]

High levels of AASs, that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone.[26] In males, hCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone.

If hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.


References:

25^ Williams, Lance (May 8, 2009). "Manny Ramirez suspended; testosterone ratio exceeded limits; fertility drug reported". San Francisco Chronicle.
26^ van Breda E, Keizer HA, Kuipers H, Wolffenbuttel BH (April 2003). "Androgenic anabolic steroid use and severe hypothalamic-pituitary dysfunction: a case study". Int J Sports Med 24 (3): 195–6. doi:10.1055/s-2003-39089. PMID 12740738.

 

[saudades]

There was nothing else just 500 mg of test and my blood work came back at2600. N I specificly asked questions on this forum about what my pct should b and noonday ever even mentioned hcg. All the responds were nova and clomid so I appolgise if I come off uneducated about the subject but I honestly have done a lot of research and it just never came up

Most only need nolva or clomid to bring back testosterone production. HCG can be added or used on its own, but when added to either nolva or clomid, it will bring back testosterone production much faster than using those compounds without it.

 

[musclebound86]

Thanks saud. It's appreciated. Hey just to make sure I should start my pct 2 weeks Afta my last shot?

 

[big in vegas]

Yea, that's about right man

 

[musclebound86]

Thanks

 

[big in vegas]

No problem