IGF1/GH/PegMGF or MGF

[stevecrammer]

Looking to do the above cycle, but read taking IGF1 and Peg MGF can intefere with one another. e.g The Peg MGF can downregulate the IGF receptors?

So here would be my Protocol, do you have any comments?

Using Peg MGF
Monday PWO IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)/5ui HGH(bi-lateral)Tuesday PWO IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)/5ui HGH(bi-lateral)
Wednesday No training. PM 400mcgs Peg MGF (bi-lateral)
Thursday PWO IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)/5ui HGH(bi-lateral)
Friday PWO IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)/5ui HGH(bi-lateral)

Using MGF
Monday PWO 5ui HGH(bi-lateral)/MGF 300mcgs(bi-lateral)
(60 mins later)IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)

Tuesday PWO 5ui HGH(bi-lateral)/MGF 300mcgs(bi-lateral)
(60 mins later)IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)

Thursday PWO 5ui HGH(bi-lateral)/MGF 300mcgs(bi-lateral)
(60 mins later)IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)

Friday PWO 5ui HGH(bi-lateral)/MGF 300mcgs(bi-lateral)
(60 mins later)IGF1 50mcgs(bi-lateral)

 

[Presser]

ill bump this for ya bro but im not experienced with mgf to give any tyoe of advice

 

[sidius]

what i have read is that MGF and IGF do not work together at the same time. Not sure if its cuz they fight for receptors. I'll try to find some links for ya.

But from other forums, the general rule I keep seeing is to take MGF EOD POW and then IGF 24 hr's later.

 

[highside]

Yes, the info going around right now says they do not go good together. The new thing to try is doing the MGF postworkout. Then use the IGF 3-5 days later in that same muscle. If you did chest on Monday, you use MGF post workout. Then use IGF in chest Thursday. There are so many theories, I am not sure what is correct.

 

[highside]

Also, this would only be done 3 times a week for a 3 day a week workout.

 

[dorian123]

I don't know i've seen certain places that are selling a blend of MGF and IGF kinda like a blend...all in one

 

[elhefe800]

it is true to a certain degree that the myoblasts will compete for the igf/mgf, but only to a point. it's just a matter of statistics. if you don't want to take that chance a good protocol would be to take the igf post workout, and the peg-mgf about 24 to 36 hrs previous. subq with the peg mgf would even be fine.

 

[saudades]

I'm not quite certain, but from my research, IGF and MGF act differently. From what I understand, MGF creates more myoblasts to be used to make muscle fibers. IGF is what turns the myoblasts into the muscle fibers. Based on this, it would be beneficial to use both of them since IGF can't create more muscle without more myoblasts.

I'm not sure about the receptor downregulation although I'm sure it's possible. I'll look into it.

 

[bm11]

IGF and MGF act synergistically. Previously the recommended protocol was to pin MGF into the muscles being worked the next day the night before, and to pin IGF immediatly PWO. Now I hear of guys mixing IGF/MGF in the same syringe and getting excellent results.

 

[John44]

Just to add more conflicting views I read: MGF is one of a few isoforms of IGF once it is systemic. So adding MGF to an IGF protocol MIGHT be described like adding a particular AA to your protein shake PWO. Same source also thought MGF immed PWO followed by IGF an hour later, both PWO to take advantage of the affinity for the gorwth factors after training due to the exercise performed. Seems logically when comparing to anecdotal evidence that IGF increases localized growth when injected PWO in muscle trained. Food for thought.

 

[Bents]

never tried but I found info in the links below

this one suggests 200mcg, two times a week
http://www.basskilleronline.com/mechano-growth-factor.shtml

on other board...they suggest to pin right after workout and if u add igf-1...1 hour later mgf
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=258434

I´m still researching mgf to my own use, but everything I read so far comes from trials and errors protocols. I´ve seen people suggesting no more than 200mcg /week....and people suggesting up to 750mcg week, splitting doses in order to pin major muscles groups...got no ideal protocol so far.

 

[dorian123]

see that's something I was wondering about MGF
some places say to use 400mcg/week
and other places are saying to use 200mcg/day
hell is anyone really knows-at this point I think that it's too experimental

 

[Matt76]

i'm going to try

100mcgs of peg pwo bi-lateral so 200mcgs pwo
the next day i'm doing 50mcg's bi lateral so 100mcgs a EOD of the short version of IGF

 

[dorian123]

keep us posted bro, hate to waste money if there is so much confusing data out there. And because of the very short half life (even the PEG version) nobody really knows how much or the best time to inject

 

[JohnnieFreeze]

Ive heard of people cycling IGF alone for 4 weeks, followed by peg for another 4, then back on IGF, followed by peg, etc. and getting really good results. You can go back and forth between the 2 compounds indefinitely and and also save a bit of cash.