Is Test a requirement?

[csuperman]

I know over the years I have heard multiple times that test is the best, and I believed it for a while and managed ok in my opinion, but I recently used a little bit of test with some compounds and well I dont believe test is best anymore.

 

[Presser]

I think it's your main staple and build around it but I don't think it's the best as tren ace is better in my opinion but I would Never cycle without a testosterone. Just my 2 cents and good post!

 

[Mrbigz]

^^agree. Tren is best but test keeps the wood burning

 

[dorian123]

I look at it like a cake, test is the cake itself, deca, tren, eq. is the icing and anything else you put in like dbol is the candles

tren is probably better than test mg per mg HOWEVER, you don't get the sides off test like you do tren (at least I don't)

 

[Buffalo]

^^agree. Tren is best but test keeps the wood burning

I don't see why anyone would risk that. Test is cheap and safer to run for long periods.

 

[mike2042]

tren is awsome ... just use tren ace that way if you hit sides theyll go away quicker... iv run tren several times and find that the side really arent that bad plus its my understanding and i may be wrong but i believe tren is said to be 30 x stronger than test mg per mg

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if you run tren you will probobly want to run test with it or yo will end up with tren dick most likely...

 

[mike2042]

what other compunds did you use??

 

[Presser]

Yeah tren ace can fuck ur dick up lol I would NEVER use it without testosterone

 

[csuperman]

i like a little test and a little tren mixed in with some gh and imo you will look pretty damn good.

tren even in a low dose gives me bp issues and elavated resting heart rate, i stick to literally 100mg a week split into 2 seperate days.

 

[mike2042]

ive always taken tren ace daily.... with test e every 3 days... i usually take about 115 mg a day to keep blood levels consitent... only problem with the tren is progesterone and a high dose of vitamin b can help with that somewhat but the strength gains were phonomenal for me

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and expect your bp to raise 30 points while running tren

 

[Presser]

i like a little test and a little tren mixed in with some gh and imo you will look pretty damn good.

tren even in a low dose gives me bp issues and elavated resting heart rate, i stick to literally 100mg a week split into 2 seperate days.

ive always taken tren ace daily.... with test e every 3 days... i usually take about 115 mg a day to keep blood levels consitent... only problem with the tren is progesterone and a high dose of vitamin b can help with that somewhat but the strength gains were phonomenal for me

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and expect your bp to raise 30 points while running tren

Ive used it daily and eod, and I dont think either of you are wrong or right, all i know is tren is amazing and also has some pretty bad sides if ran too high. But tren many years ago is what made me decide to compete, it changed my body almost overnight to the point I thought i could stand next to anyone on it!

 

[nuknuk]

This is a good question. I would say with some drugs, Test is not really needed if your just looking for what that certain drug offers.

 

[mike2042]

ive always thought of test as the base for any cycle... ive heard of not running test but usually your libido suffers... test is cheap and the best way to start and end a cycle for me...

 

[csuperman]

tren many years ago is what made me decide to compete, it changed my body almost overnight to the point I thought i could stand next to anyone on it!

exactly it makes noticable changes quicker than any other drug imo. and you seem to get a little swagger when your on it as well.

 

[Chris250]

I would say, I still use test as my base..except for the final month before the show...