You will know this place db,lol, i actualy went to talk to the owner of "The Cave" in philly and he told me i was too big, so yes i tryed and was rejected, he looked at my skin,my hair and i mean he realy went through my body top to botttom (and no he aint a fag)lol, but he was pretty thorough, and i knew two guys that danced there and neither was nearly as wqell built as me they were skinny little dudes ripped up